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Yes, I studied the two frames using this site. It was very helpful for me to see what my reach and bar height would be on a creo vs a Vado sl. The VSL has a longer reach, but once you factor the hand position in, the creo is a little longer reach. One word of caution - several months ago I...

Like saratogadave, I had my lbs ($85) pack up my Vado sl and send it off to Pro’s Closet, who had emailed me a fedex shipping label. I knew my shop would pack it up securely and thought it wouldn’t be worth the hassle for me to do that myself. I had the agreed upon amount in my PayPal account...

I went from a Vado sl to a creo comp carbon and for me it was a big step up in performance, though probably some of the step up is mental. I only ride on the road so I don’t know if your gravel rides would feel faster on a creo. I know you changed your VSL bar height and use the inner bar ends...

No, my observations are based on actual data from Blevo. On my Creo, turbo acts much differently that eco or sport. I can send you my Blevo csv file if you would like to see it. It shows that at the same rider input I get an extra 100 watts in turbo as compared to eco, even though both are set...

Yeah, I wondered that too. And I wonder if the Creo is tuned differently than the Vado sl. I know the firmware version numbers are the same so I assumed they worked the same. In turbo, even at 25/100, it wants to give me 300 watts with almost any pedal input. Since I rarely use turbo, that...

I know that. At 35/35 I expect to see it peak out at just over 100 watts and that would happen with about 140 rider watts. I get about 40 watts. At 200 rider watts I get about 70 watts. I understand the algorithm to be 1.8 X rider power, up to the max. Setting, which at 35rider, 35 max power...

I have been corresponding with Spec Rider Care about my power delivery on my Creo. It feels perfect and I like the amount of assist I get in the stock setting, but I noticed that I was getting a lot less motor power under the same conditions that I did on my Vado SL. The VSL did roughly follow...

I’ve seen several threads, observations and opinions here about the Creo motor noise. I’m not sure if this video has been posted before but it compares popular ebike motors, including the specialized 1.1 (Creo and Vado sl). My personal experience is with a Vado SL that I had for 7 months, and...

I agree with Mschwett: the tall “duckbill” that the creo future shock comes with gives 15mm more height than the short one that other bikes can use. You can then add 15 mm in spacers, then flip the stem to give 36mm more height and 11mm less reach than the stock setup. A 17 deg stem (all stems...

You might be right. It could function like the CMOS battery backup on a PC motherboard and store any user settings other than the default, like a custom assist level. When the PC coin cells died, windows would ask for the time and date every time you booted up. The other BIOS settings it backed...

I think I saw another creo rattle fix thread somewhere that used the same solution as mine. I’ll add mine here to help others looking for a fix. My carbon comp creo started making an annoying rattle on bumps that sounded like it was coming from the front of the bike. On a ride, I tried holding...

I’m curious about the TCU battery too. Any updates or information about the purpose of the battery? It seems logical that it could be to store changes to the default rider settings, but logic doesn’t always dictate how things work.

I’ll add one to the list: garmin edge 130 plus. It’s garmin’s cheapest unit and mine works very well with my Creo. I paired it with the power and cadence sensors on the bike, then with my Varia radar-rear light. It displays rider power, cadence and all the basic speed and time units. Adding the...

Months ago I read several versions of the specialized return policy and understand that returned items have to be unused and in their original packaging to qualify for a refund, and the refund doesn’t apply to bikes. I think bikes can be returned but only for store credit. Since the O.P’s bike...

I agree - My Vado SL 4.0 with the 10 speed clunked loudly when I shifted to a smaller sprocket. I tried to slow my cadence way down or even stop pedaling for a split second before shifting. Riding with assist off, it was a much quieter shift. My creo, with an 11 speed, has a noticeable but much...

I get what you’re questioning. That’s how the cleaner is designed and it seems to work on my Creo. Maybe the derailleur spring tension and the clutch take care of things. I’ll pay closer attention next time I use it, but so far, so good.

The park tool cleaner (the newer model) lets you put the handle on either side, designed for mid motor ebikes. You can forward pedal through it and have the chain exit past the sponge and go through the brushes the same direction as it would move with the handle reversed and back pedaling. I’ve...

That’s what I’ve done. The Allen key can get wedged in and require a sharp push on the pedal in the forward direction to get it out. I got some very minor nicks in the crank arm at the contact point too. It looks like the above product avoids that by keeping the Allen perpendicular to the chain...

I don’t know if this will help with you issue, but I noticed your device updates version numbers in your first post were blank. That happened to me several times with my Vado SL and I had trouble connecting to mission control. I found that my Garmin would interfere with MC if I turned it on...

That sure clears things up for me! All this time I thought you had to put your arms in first.