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@David42000 do you mind sharing what aspect of the legal world you work(ed) in? I understand if you don't care to share. I'm a retired Engineer, retired Certified Safety Professional and supported our legal team in product liability cases (accident investigation and discovery analysis.) Also...

Would you agreee the vocal group on this website is smaller than a bump on a gnat's butt compared to the population of ebike riders? I'd bet a very small percent of ebike riders know or care what these folks are talking about.

Who is teaching kids what you describe? Do young parents these days really suck that much when it comes to teaching their kids? Who would teach that a bike is safe because of its software limited speed? Speed is one of many considerations in safe riding that need to be taught...

Outside academic mumbo jumbo, do you think ebike riders actually think that a software speed limited motorbike with pedals is safe because of the limited speed? I suppose there are feeble minded people.

That only restricts assist, not the riders ability to pedal faster. In my younger days, we traveled low 20s on the level. I tried going over 20 on my Class 1 Gazelle. Failed 1st attempt. Pumped tires to max and hit 22 for about 5 seconds; probably wont do that again.

Is there a bike with pedals that limits top speed?

My bad, for a more relevant comment, you should have said: "What I find interesting is that if this were real someone would be have been building a bunch of factories starting 4 or 5 years ago."

No pedals; out of scope.

Like this? Micron | Empire State Development https://share.google/RvPN6Bd3eHHXPTMJK

German pancakes this morning with local store brand pure maple syrup. Although we usually by Vermont syrup when we are back east, we ran out and had to buy local. Was surprised to read "Product of US and Canada."

Barbarian!

We're not in the Vermont area; left Upstate NY 50 years ago. Care very little about the Queen and her family. If it wasn't for your maple leaf cookies and St. Joseph Oratory, we wouldn't pay much attention to Canada either.

Never been on the Cog; have driven up 3 or 4 times. Well worth the trip.

Rather than me Cliff Noting, see Federation of Quebec Maple Syrup Producers.

I've read Canada has some pretty strict rules that don't restrict those in Vermont.

Curious, have you seen a comparison of Canadian vs Vermont syrup?

In my younger days, I'd agree vehicles were past their useful life in less than 7 years. Not today. I'll also say, if one needs a 7 year loan, they are buying too much vehicle.

Consider an alternate perspective: It is tough for US manufacturers to compete with a foreign product that is subsidized by their government. If we allow these products in, damage our industry, more power to China in the US. That is a bad thing by the way, no balls need to analyze, just a...

Better than the no balls, no brain it replaced. A step to B with B. Thus the preface "if one can believe AI". I don't seek answers from AI on anything that is important.

As long as we have national leadership with balls. Obviously with a $770 average payment, it's not about the math for many people. Those that "it's about the math" are buying used cars. If one can believe an AI summary, 1st quarter EV sales were down over 25%. Which is the direction I...