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  1. Douglas Ruby

    The new turbo Vado 2017

    The Vado 3.0 and 4.0 are both Class 1 (20 mph non throttle) in the USA. The Vado 5.0 is Class 3 as are all of the earlier Turbo models.
  2. Douglas Ruby

    The pricing/value of Turbo X priced at $4K compared to other bikes available now?

    The 2016 Turbo X is NOT the same as the 2015. The 2015 Turbo X was identical to the base Turbo except for the suspension fork. The 2016 has a 250W motor instead of 200W, it has Shimano brakes and derailleur instead of Formula/SRAM. It has a 540Wh bluetooth battery instead of 468Wh "dumb" battery.
  3. Douglas Ruby

    Replacement Batteries for 2013-2016 Turbo (non-Levo/Vado)

    Jwb...I wish I could tie this to build date but I just dont have that information. My attempt to identify this to model year required hours of searching reviews and announcements back through late 2012..
  4. Douglas Ruby

    Replacement Batteries for 2013-2016 Turbo (non-Levo/Vado)

    Just to provide some additional detail to the above discussion, I found some pictures of the internals of a dismantled SBC-B01 manufactured in 2012. This battery is presumably one of the early 342Wh ones. View from the bottom of the battery with the aluminum case pulled back. Note the 18650...
  5. Douglas Ruby

    Replacement Batteries for 2013-2016 Turbo (non-Levo/Vado)

    There has been a lot of discussion recently about replacement batteries and availability for the Specialized Turbo. I wanted to start this thread as an informational post targeted at the "facts" of what batteries are available, compatible, and what upgrades and/or replacements are possible...
  6. Douglas Ruby

    Turbo Batteries - 2013 and beyond

    Many thanks! List updated.
  7. Douglas Ruby

    The new turbo Vado 2017

    Love to share a frosty. I get out to central Ca. every once in awhile. Where r u?
  8. Douglas Ruby

    Replacement front chainring

    With my changeover to the 11-42 Shimano XT 11 speed on my base Turbo, I went back to the 48T. Personally, I think this is ideal since an 80 cadence gets you to the 40+kmh range in top gear. If you are riding in mountainous terrain and want to pedal monster descents in leg power, up to 54T bcd...
  9. Douglas Ruby

    The new turbo Vado 2017

    Ya know, I have enjoyed my Turbo and do not regret purchasing it. While it is true that I wrote a detailed letter to Specialized outlining a support program Id like to see, I, like many, am not too concerned. Yes, I would like to see a product life cycle management approach that emphasized...
  10. Douglas Ruby

    The new turbo Vado 2017

    Drew (and others), I don't know the status of the Turbo SC battery availability or your source of data. If you would like to communicate with the Product Manager for the Turbo line, her name is Olivia Bleitz and her email is: [email protected]. She is out of Specialized's HQ at...
  11. Douglas Ruby

    The new turbo Vado 2017

    Hey all, I have nothing in writing yet and only the briefest of conversations. I am assuming that the 691 Wh batteries are just on backorder now. Put one on order and see when you can get it. The 504 Wh batteries are available and are discounted to under $700.
  12. Douglas Ruby

    The new turbo Vado 2017

    Spoke very briefly through a bad cell connection with the product manager. She was surprised I had not gotten her email. I will try to get this in writing, but her words were that the Manager of Warranty support wrote her that the legacy Turbo line would continue to be supported, including...
  13. Douglas Ruby

    The new turbo Vado 2017

    Not yet. I will try a phone call tomorrow.
  14. Douglas Ruby

    Known Issues & Problems with Specialized Products + Help, Solutions & Fixes

    What I saw at the dealer when he was using the diagnostics to try and get a report on the various health and firmware versions of the original 468 Wh non blue tooth battery, motor, and controller was not an easy to use GUI. He had to reboot and try to reconnect numerous times before it would...
  15. Douglas Ruby

    Specialized Vado - Do I need a s-pedelec (large person)

    Part of the speed potential of the Vado 5.0 vs. 3.0 is based on the power of the motor (350W vs. 250W), part is the electronic governing speed sensor attached to the rear disc rotor (see the manual), and part is based on gearing (48T vs. 40T chainring). Note that the Vado 4.0 (same...
  16. Douglas Ruby

    Replace the bottom bracket system for a more efficient one

    You have square taper on your Turbo? Not on mine....
  17. Douglas Ruby

    Known Issues & Problems with Specialized Products + Help, Solutions & Fixes

    My experience parallels your except my LBS was willing to spend the time to learn how to maintain the bike. The underlying issue is that the Turbo firmware was not designed to be user maintainable. IMO, the support tools were just a bunch of development tools designed to be used in the lab...
  18. Douglas Ruby

    The new turbo Vado 2017

    I believe that the $3200 and $4600 are the correct prices. While the web site is evolving, keep in mind that Specialized hasnt yet formally launched the Vado line in the US. Once the launch event happens I will believethe pricing.
  19. Douglas Ruby

    The new turbo Vado 2017

    Today I followed up my phone conversation with a formal email to the Turbo Product Manager. Key things I asked for were 5 year availability for out-of-warranty spares through the dealers and/or accessory catalog for: Battery - At least the option to purchase a 691 Wh battery which can be used...
  20. Douglas Ruby

    The new turbo Vado 2017

    Court some mistakes on your Vado 5.0 comparison. The 5.0 has a top speed of 28 mph. Also the front fork is not an SR Suntour but is a solid fork.
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