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C'mon....bikers don't want to get hurt so common sense is that they will slow down when there are pedestrians. This does not advance the bike safety debate whatsover as it sounds like saying "they have WMDs."

Historically for non-electric bikes, "classifications" referred to the type of bike (e.g., Road, Mountain, Gravel, Commuter, Cruiser, Trike, Recumbent). Obviously depending on intended use the bike designs were optimized for that use. Doesn't mean you could not ride a mountain bike as a commuter...

Do we really need to parse a "low speed electric bicycle" as defined by HR727 into classes. As performance changes / increases there are different product classifications - ebike/moped/motorcycle/etc. Some companies are putting functional pedals on what essentially are mopeds or motorcycles and...

Yes....10X downhill is easy to do without a motor or even pedaling which is why the 28-30mph top assist makes a little sense as an ebike would not really exceed a speed commonly achieved on traditional bikes. Going downhill is also when a lot of accidents happen...maybe the largest %.

That was a "use" law - an example of when a state does something stupid like the 3-class legislation (this was not a "use" law). For interstate commerce we need federal definitions for what is legal for sale in all 50 states (HR727 did that for low power electric bikes but also established that...

It's not really the speed capability of the mobility devices (some sports cars can easily exceed 200mph), it's the idiots that think they can go 50mph on a mixed use path with a 15mph speed limit. Common sense needed because if someone in a fast sports car does 200mph thru a residence area and...

Try this. Try riding up say a 6-8% grade on a Bosch or Yamaha 250W rated mid drive ebike while trying to maintain 20mph. You quickly discover that takes a significant rider effort to sustain that speed and I would argue that is a problem when using an ebike for urban mobility because if riding...

Thick street tires around 2.5' wide for passive suspension like the Schwalbe Moto X (why are most street tires designed to be lite for racing?), No front fork because they are just so the industry gets service money later, 120nM or more mid-drive (so can sustain 20mph up a reasonable hill...

I think that most people see ebikes, just like traditional bikes, as recreation / leisure / fitness oriented instead of for any serious urban mobility which is really where their highest potential lies. It's the sad reality of the industry but besides Stromer no ebike producer has really...

Really??? HR727 is what regulated interstate commerce - what is legal for sale in all 50 states. It's not about states taking it up...it's top level authority and it's automatic. Research interstate commerce laws...please. You are spreading disinformation. I'm 100% trying to ensure compliant...

Really??? HR727 is what regulated interstate commerce - that is legal for sale in all 50 states. They don't just take it up...it's automatic. Research interstate commerce laws...please. You are spreading disinformation. I'm 100% trying to ensure compliant ebikes can be "used" in all 50 states as...

I have never suggested this. Never! HR727 restricts motor alone speeds for compliant ebikes at 20mph on a level surface but that assist level is allowed to continue such that only rider added power generates a higher speed. It was a very good bill and few even know it exists. We do not want...

It's actually not vague at all and keep in mind it's enforcement is on the product prior to sale. Not enforced by state "use" laws. Emerging ebikes were under legal purview of the NHTSA prior to HR727 passing (keep in mind one vote short of Congressional consensus and signed by the President so...

I have ALWAYS said that "usage" is what the states do have jurisdiction over. Some don't understand the difference between defining a compliant product and laws on how it can be used - they are mutually exclusive. The CPSC states what is a compliant ebike to be sold in all 50 states and states...

That equipment is not banned on bikes using public infrastructure as some class 3 ebikes are.

Yes, I understand this. The point is that traditional bike speeds can be too fast for some infrastructure so speed limits on that infrastructure makes sense (not just adopting assist limits of 15mph like in Europe). There are many sports cars that can go above 200mph and we certainly don't want...

I just want ebikes to reach their full potential for urban mobility. They are the most efficient means to go from A-to-B - more efficient than walking when consumption calories are considered and as efficient as a full loaded passenger train. If an ebike that an ebike that provides any assist...

This is wrong. HR727 allows the assist that sustains 20mph motor alone to continue with the human effort adding to it for faster speeds. But if run simulations that typically results in assist + rider input speeds around 28-30mph so HR727 was a great regulation that few have taken the time to...

The official men's UCI Hour Record is held by Italian cyclist Filippo Ganna, who covered a distance of (56.792 km on October 8, 2022. That's 56kph which is right at 34mph. An incredible record but don't lie to the people reading these forums or call me a liar.

You know that for years I said this current mess was going to happen because it was the intend of the 3 class legislation from People for Bikes. I stepped away for some time and have recently decided to engage again because what is going on is irrational and soon we'll end up with ebikes being...