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    Vado SL 5.0 -- It's Here!

    I ran a little google map calculator and I have about a mile at 8-10% grade to get home every evening. I'm no longer all that athletic and it is enough to give me serious second thoughts about riding to work on my ordinary road bike. I don't mind pedaling, but on cold rainy nights I just want...
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    Vado SL 5.0 -- It's Here!

    Nice looking bike. I have a 2022 Vado 5.0 on order at my LBS with no notion of when it will come in but they have a couple of these. I might switch my deposit over and buy one of these instead. My only real hesitation is that I live on the top of a pretty steep hill (about 600 vertical feet...
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    Headlight upgrades for ebikes with stock headlights?

    Wow, thanks guys. Lots to absorb here. Some of you guys have some serious "cockpits" going on there. It seems like the bottom line is to not mess with the stock wiring and headlights/taillights that come with these ebikes. But rather supplement them as necessary according to your needs with...
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    2022 Turbo Vado and Turbo Tero comparison: Same bike?

    Do the cars and motorcycles zooming by me on my left on the same exact street as me have a 20 mph speed restriction built into their machines?
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    2022 Turbo Vado and Turbo Tero comparison: Same bike?

    I can't actually find anything on the Specialized US web site that confirms the Tero is Class 1. They definitely say the Vado is Class 3. Well, they at least say it goes up to 28 mph. But nothing on the web site about the Tero. If it is Class 1 then that would be a deal killer for me as a...
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    2022 Turbo Vado and Turbo Tero comparison: Same bike?

    Both the Tero and Vado 5.0 get OEM versions of this same air fork: https://www.sram.com/en/rockshox/models/fs-rcns-rl-d1 I’m not sure about the cheaper versions, they probably get different forks. The Tero 5.0 version comes with slightly longer 110 mm travel and the Vado 5.0 version has shorter...
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    2022 Turbo Vado and Turbo Tero comparison: Same bike?

    N But you wouldn’t need to replace the fork. Both forks are the same 480 mm length. The difference is that the Vado has 80 mm of travel while the Tero has 110 and the Vado fork has fender mounts while the Tero fork does not. So the Vado fork is slightly more optimized for city use and the...
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    2022 Turbo Vado and Turbo Tero comparison: Same bike?

    The point is that you can really get two bikes for the price of one. You can buy a Vado for city commuting with fenders and slick tires. Then strip it down and put on knobby dirt tires and have a functional off-road machine as long as you don’t get too extreme with it. That is a LOT LOT...
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    2022 Turbo Vado and Turbo Tero comparison: Same bike?

    Well, it seems the only difference is the fork, tires, and accessories like racks, fenders, etc. Both the frame, componentry, and ebike features are all the same. And we are talking about the 2022 models. The earlier models were completely different. There is nothing the same between a 2021...
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    2022 Turbo Vado and Turbo Tero comparison: Same bike?

    Plus, Specialized doesn’t have enough bikes to supply their current markets in 2021 and 2022. All they would accomplish by trying to ramp up sales in Japan is cannibalize their sales in other markets where they are better established.
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    2022 Specialized Como Turbo 5.0 vs R&M vs Stromer ST2

    That alone would be enough to make me scratch it off my list. I don’t think I’ve ever owned a bike on which I didn’t swap out the bars, stem, or both, to dial-in the fit to my personal specs. I wasn’t sure what you meant until I looked closely at the pics and sure enough. They are using some...
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    Help choose a Class 3 commuting bike

    Well, part of the support with traditional biking shoes is the rigid sole. Traditional cleated shoes have full length rigid shanks so the size of the platform is irrelevant. I do have one pair of more casual Shimano SPD shoes that have more of a sneaker or walking shoe shank, I guess to make...
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    Help choose a Class 3 commuting bike

    My commuter riding is more suburban. I probably only have one or two traffic lights where I'm likely to have to stop if I don't hit green. The rest of the way is mostly wide open suburban streets with 4-way stops at worst. I'll probably go with the Shimano SPD pedals that have platforms on one...
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    Anybody Ride a Specialized Turbo Tero Yet?

    You can easily measure your own wheel circumference. Position the valve stem or other marking on the tire on your floor and park the spot with a piece of chalk or tape. Roll the bike forward one revolution and mark the floor again. Measure the distance between your two marks. I would expect...
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    2022 Turbo Vado and Turbo Tero comparison: Same bike?

    Actually I'm more torn between the Vado and Vado SL. But that is a good point on the Class 1 vs Class 3. Most of my riding will be on suburban roads where Class 3 will be nice to have. My ideal bike is probably a Vado SL that is better setup for commuting with a more robust rack and front...
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    2022 Turbo Vado and Turbo Tero comparison: Same bike?

    Why are they not compatable? Thru axles have become more or less standard on higher-end mountain bikes these days. As long as you find aftermarket wheels with the same axle dimensions and same disk diameter and same SRAM rear cassette they should fit. Actually I think SRAM and Shimano chains...
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    2022 Turbo Vado and Turbo Tero comparison: Same bike?

    Exactly. I live in an area of the Pacific Northwest where there are endless thousands of miles of rough logging roads scattered all over the place. Most of them gravel and not particularly challenging for an actual mountain bike, but more rugged than suburban pavement. The Vado looks like a...
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    2022 Turbo Vado and Turbo Tero comparison: Same bike?

    I don't want to do anything in particular. It was just something I happened to notice. The pre-2022 Vados were clearly much different bikes. But for 2022 Specialized seems to have consolidated their manufacturing and are producing two different bikes off the same basic frame. Since I'm...
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    2022 Turbo Vado and Turbo Tero comparison: Same bike?

    If you take two identical frames and install a longer fork and different stem on one of them, that will affect: reach, wheelbase, head tube angle, fork rake, etc. Because you will be elevating the front end of the bike and changing all the angles. What won't change by swapping out fork and...
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    2022 Turbo Vado and Turbo Tero comparison: Same bike?

    Those measurements will all change if you swap out a shorter fork for a longer fork. The fork is very definitely longer on the Tero which you can see from the difference in wheel clearance from the top of the wheel to the fork crown on the two bikes. The tires are the same size so that extra...
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