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The annoying cut-off is avoiding by the HR727 definition but everyone wants to claim there is a cut-off at 20mph but that is the wrong interpretation. It's worded oddly because Currie wanted to keep the impression there was a 20mph limit motor alone while allowing that level of assist beyond...

The "low speed electric bike" as defined by HR727 is all that is needed. It's simple and complied with the NHTSA assist limit guidelines to release legal purview to the CPSC. I'm pretty sure anyone pushing the 3 class system is receiving money to do so but I can't prove that. I do know that the...

They are not necessary. Was any study ever done to show a Class 1 pedelec impacts trails or roads less than a Class 2 throttle assist ebike? Was any study done to show that the impact of a Class 1 going 20mph impacts trails or roads more than a Class 3 going 28mph? There was nothing done to show...

I stopped posting for a long time but the new efforts in NJ kind of got my attention. Have you ever researched the establishment off the CPSC? Things get very complicated if every state has different product definitions and requirements. I think the real problem is that what are e-motorcycles...

The Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) was established in 1972 largely based on the federal government's authority to regulate interstate and foreign commerce. While the primary purpose of the CPSC was to protect the public from unreasonable risks of injury or death from consumer...

I can not emphasize enough that anyone truly interested in the future potential of ebikes and what is regulation compliant understand what HR727 states and was intended to do. Before this bill was passed an ebike was considered a motor vehicle safety and definition regulated by the NHTSA. The...

Note: It does appear that NJ is staying somewhat hands off the Class 1 and 2 ebikes (still not a fan of the Class system as it's really caused the problems) and focusing on the class 3 (as if 8mph more assist speed turns an ebike into a moped). I entered a lot of AI interactive conversation on...

Check into the ebike called the Footloose. It has been sold and ?legally? ridden in the US and Europe even though the pedals are not directly connected to the wheels. I think this will establish a legal precedence for anyone wanting to sell an ebike using the pedals to generate battery...

What automotive companies do when they decide to produce an ebikes they practice "defensive development" - they don't want a solution that might get people from using cars when an ebike might be a better way for that mobility need. Remember GMs Arrive ebikes....they were just last mile...

Thanks for the feedback. One of the shortfalls for an IGH based on compound planet gears is the under-drive ratios which tend to be of dubious value on commuting ebikes, especially higher power ebikes. We will have less gears but non will be below a 1:1 direct drive ratio so the final drive...

Hi, I'm involved with a rear IGH project that will be a 3-speed 400% range with a torque rating over 350nm and no under-drive ratios (1;1, 1:2 & 1;4). I'm guessing you don't use any of your under-drive ratios for 90% of your riding given the power of the Bafang Ultra so wanted to get your...

Going down just a 5% grade any rider can easily hit 40mph. Going down a 10% grade you don't even have to pedal to hit 50mph. There is so much that is ignore in the ebike debate. Below 20mph the NHTSA doesn't even car about max power which explains why the federal ebike definition only...

I think the financial pain of owning and always driving a car is becoming a larger and larger burden for most of us. An ebike can save everyone $1000s a year for anyone that commits to using it for most short trips from the home. Once someone is comfortable doing that they will inevitably start...

That is a nice design but what you inevitably end up with is an ebike that costs as much as a low end car that may even need to be parked as a car due to increased footprint vs a traditional bike. In the summer an enclosed bike can be very hot inside and in the winter condensation can be a...

There is a lot of riding data that indicates that the vast majority of riders do achieve speeds in the 25-30mph range when going down hill. Now I know some will claim that is meaningless but it shows that most riders do in fact feel safe at those speeds and it's probably why the class 3...

While there is an overload of data presented some of it is telling. Most people still consider bikes/ebikes as recreation and fitness oriented and not for transportation. The idea that most people don't want to ride over 2 miles tells me that few really understand how effective ebikes are.

They should be a 100% bike / ebike advocacy organization but the 3-class legislation they promoted was primarily to harmonize a system with Europe which as intended to ensure ebikes remained a recreation/leisure/fitness product and not the most effective urban mobility solution they could be...

This is a post on ebike regulations so I have been out of context.

Listen, I have nothing to do with all the new ebikes coming out with Class switching capability. I did predict it would happen but that does not make it my fault. Maybe you can explain what the performance difference is between a LSEB as defined by HR727 and a multi-mode ebike. My guess...