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That is true. I mean no disrespect. What I'm saying I've been shopping every single Ebike out 2018 and there's an undeniable similarity in the frame designs within the majority of online brands. It mostly bottom bracket and Battery mounted frame tube alterations. Am I wrong? Or you get better...

Forget what the site says, The Enduro was "In stock" on the 5/16 with 1-2 days prep and it shipped yesterday... Call them and talk to the guy 1st hand. Somebody else, on here, received their order under 2 weeks. I put the heat on them just so, the urgency was there. I work in customer service...

LOL it's rough time to buy. I agree, answer the damn phone....

The owner answered my call and gave me honest feedback. That's all I'm asking. It's buying season and back-orders are as normal as the rain. Yes I am impatient too but, I think they maybe overwhelmed and emails get checked at certain time or too many to answer in respective time. I wish I could...

Not sure where to lead you on that. Call them and ask before you jump ship. You may make another order and wait anyways bc they all get from the same vendors just modify the design slightly from each other.

I have the paid order and my bike is "enroute to Denver"... Left yesterday via YRC from Blaine, Wa. ETA is the 14th.

sounds easy enough, right? was it messy with cable grease?

I just added adapters and 203mm discs (right now) with new organic pads. I rode to top speed then braking really really hard I could smell the Supercell's rubber. It not hydraulic but, there is improvement. Instant braking, no delay, wash out only if you don't understand "feathering"... I'm...

They may have upgraded a component or vendors raised prices with the backorders working overtime... Playing devil's advocate... I got an email reply yesterday that I would have a tracking number this afternoon... fingers crossed...

Applications will teeter totter that answer. Paradox, right and wrong.

2014, I had a heart condition develop so, in 2017 I decided a fat-tire 750w rear hub (Rad Rover) with throttle would be smart to start with. I would have to say it was for cardiac support and budget, is my concise answer to you question in 2017. Now 2018, I agree a hub feels like crude power...

Legal Hub motor fats aren't as zippy as 0-60, more like 0-24mph eventually... Bafang really has been stepping up their game. Maybe it's time you learned to believe something new...?... I want to see some videos of 160nm mid-drives in action, personally.. The Bafang Max is 350w with 86nm and does...

I ditched all social media for many reasons. I would think a reply to my direct email to know things are behind would be easier than replying to FB posts. thx for info anyways. the part that ticks me is when i ordered it was "in stock" now zip 3 weeks later, and crickets

:oops: they are not answering the phone and my order is still Pending...?.... integrity goes a long way and I'm not feeling it. they can at least change their message to " we are not answering the phone because we are crazy busy putting your bike together to ship it out."

it's only cheating if you're competing against a non e bike rider for money and you lied about having a motor. if you're riding for fun do they say that riding a motorcycle is cheating? I have an atv too, how bad am I a cheater there and against who am I cheating? where do we draw the line? it...

OK that's why...

My order still says "processing" from the 16th, Northern IL... Mike what model did you order?

I read, and read, youtube videos, read, and read. I knew stuff but, nothing about actually riding one until the bike shop let me test a Haibike behind his shop and WOW. I was SOLD. I had bought a Rad Rover for the throttle and the price with no regrets other than the hub motor isn't a true big...

looks a lot like a Voltbike Yukon 750 with the Ultra mid-drive instead of the hub motor and branding... 160nm of torque is very nice...

STOP reading and go test drive a few! You done all the reading you can, right? I suggest getting the frame and motor to match your intended riding performance because the components are replaceable later down the line. Do you want top-speed or hillclimb? Can't have both without changing a few...