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They are wrong. The Future Shock will fit non Specialized stems, you just need the shim that comes with the bike when bought new. There some things to consider when replacing the stem, though. The stem mount, the part that actually clamps to the future shock, must be the same height as the...

Yes, I believe they've been shipping with 2.0 the whole time and just failed to update their literature. Their website photos clearly shows the FS with an adjustment knob which can only be a 2.0 or 3.3 and they certainly aren't shipping their lowest model Creo with the 3.3. I've seen a few...

Yes, I'm aware of their inaccurate or slow to be updated website. I just thought it odd that they'd downgrade from the 3.1 FS to the 2.0 on the same bike but new model year.

I noticed something interesting on the US Specialized site. Originally the Creo 2 Alloy was listed to have the 3.1 FS. When the 2026 model came out it was still listed to have the 3.1. In looking at the pics online it suggests that the 2026 either has the 2.0 because of the adjustment knob or...

I’m sorry you’re having these issues. It’s unfortunate as the Creo 2 is the best e-bike I’ve owned. I totally understand your frustration.

I agree, something is wrong and should not have had to pay anything.

I think the point is that you can have an 800wh battery in a down tube that looks like a normal size.

I agree that it’s not likely to sell well, there’s just not a market for it.

And?

An Epic or Chisel could make a fantastic on road/gravel bike but would need clearance for a larger chain ring.

I think the 3.3 might be over $400 now so that may be the decider. I think it should be mentioned the difference in riding position will likely affect the perceived effectiveness of the FS. While the Vado position is sportier than others it's still more upright than the Creo with drop bars. I'm...

Yeah, that’s pretty much exactly what I put in my post above😉 Their photos are definitely wrong, but so was the bike they sent me. As I said, I feel very fortunate in how things worked out. They certainly didn’t have to send me the 3.2 and could’ve waited until the 3.1 was available. It likely...

I recently bought a Creo 2 E5 in the new pistachio color. This bike is my favorite e-bike I’ve owned. It’s absolutely fantastic. I discovered something the other day that other owners of the 2026 E5 might need to know. The Creo 2 is supposed to come with the 3.1 Future Shock. In most of the...

Indeed, it’s quite the increase. I assume it must be tariff related but who knows.

Incidentally I noticed today that in the US Specialized has made significant price increase to the Creo Alloy and Comp Carbon. I’m glad I got mine when I did.

lol, that of course is a silly thing to say. Clearly he prefers flat bars and I prefer drops, but we both have bikes that we absolutely enjoy and suits our needs.

Nope, sorry that's impossible that a flat bar Creo 2 is better than the Vado SL it replaced😁

On that we can agree, yes I would encourage him to give the drops an honest chance. But again nothing I previously posted contradicts anything I've said here. You seem to think it sacrilege for anyone to even consider a flat bar conversion on a Creo 2. I'm just saying it's not a big deal.

Exactly, things change. Now a slammed stem is slower than a non slammed stem, tires are getting much wider on road bikes with no speed loss. Geometry changes with nearly every new model year. The Creo 2 alloy has slightly different geometry than the carbon versions. You just can't base things...

I'll add some more mud to this discussion. If you follow gravel racing at all you'll see that many of the top riders are taking very expensive full suspension XC bikes and installing drop bars for more speed. This is a modification to a bike bike designed for flat bars but modified to better...