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Living in the mountains its pretty much up and down for me, and I can certainly tell the difference when I switch from my 14.5lb Emonda to my older 18lb Colnago.

Yes, a short ride on a friends Pinarello with HPR50. Bike weighs ~28lbs and it felt heavy, would not want to ride it far without assist. Motor noise was noticeable and assist was not exactly natural (sort of on or off, never just right) , but the motor settings were not tuned for me. What I...

Yako; thanks for the comments and looking forward to your review on your channel. I am super curious to hear your impression of the TQ HPR40 vs the X-20 for a road bike. I was about to pull the trigger on an Addict eRide 10 but now wondering if I should wait until TQ40 equipped bikes are...

Thanks. I have ridden mid drive e bikes but never a hub drive. Didn't think a hub drive could provide a natural assist feel until seeing reviews for bikes with the X-20 drive system. Wish I had a chance to try hub drive but my options are limited where I live...

I understand the drives are very different, but does it really matter to the rider or do they "taste" the same? Interesting. First reviews of the Canyon with HRP40 will be coming out. They claim zero drag, hopefully that is more than marketing hype.

Yea, a weight weenie, but only to the point where cost becomes absurd. The question I have is the TQ HRP40 a significantly better drive system than the Mahle X-20 in terms of natural assist, range, noise, etc.

I have been considering purchasing Addict eRide 10 but heard recently that Scott will be introducing (soon) a new road bike using the TQ HRP40 mid drive, similar to the new Canyon OnFly sub 10. Anyone have any details and thoughts on is it worth waiting for a mid drive version (most likely will...