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Had a 75 gallon cichlid tank for over a dozen years until we did a remodel. Can't say I miss it to be honest.

The range would be shorter, no? Same battery, the new bike is more powerful and heavier. If my TV SL1 5.0 was stolen I'd get the 33lb Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 currently $4500 in the US if the current closeout inventory of TV SL1 5.0s at $2799 in Large were gone...

Just checked, the Creo SL2 Comp E5 has wider rims than my bike but runs the same size tires stock. I'm happy with the stock size on my TV SL1 5.0. Nice to have a "plan" should the worst happen and my bike gets stolen.

Never mind that the alloy SL2 5.0 and 4.0 versions released thus far in the US are EQ versions but don't come with an EQ designation.

Whenever they have a carbon fork they advertise it to justify the higher cost. Here is the "At A Glance" from the site for the Turbo Vado SL2 5.0 (which despite not being designate as such is an EQ model). Note that the $500 less Turbo Vado SL2 4.0 is also an EQ model but unlike the older...

I have no desire to upgrade but one of the things I love is the low weight so if my 5.0 SL 1 were stolen tomorrow I'd get that Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5, no question. I could live with the lower bars and skinnier tires.

Agreed.

Interestingly the Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 which is alloy, has the new motor and new 3.1 futureshock also lacks the carbon fork but manages to stay light. And is priced the same as the Turbo Vado SL 1 5.0 no eq. Weight 15.12 kg (33 lb, 5.3 oz)...

IDK the 5.0 SL has a futureshock.

Odd that the SL 2 5.0 alloy version does not come with a carbon fork unlike SL 1 5.0.

Higher price, more weight, and in Europe, no real performance advantage and even here in the States I don't need a performance advantage as 20 mph with medium effort is plenty. with the 5.0 SL. Added range would be attractive but it would have to be +75 percent with the standard battery if not...

Bought my Turbo Vado SL 5.0 SL in late 2022 for $5000 and they are available on line now for under $3000. I'd do it all over again even if I "knew" there would be that drastic a price drop, (was $2249 a few months back). Great bike, even without assist, have zero desire to upgrade to the...

Indeed they were. There were "red flag" laws passed in some places. From Wiki. "Red flag laws were laws in the United Kingdom and the United States enacted in the late 19th century, requiring drivers of early automobiles to take certain safety precautions, including waving a red flag in front...

As a longtime motorcyclist, 20 mph is fine on my e'bike with more effort getting me a few more mph above that but nowhere near 28mph on flat ground on my Turbo Vado SL 5.0.

I do like the paint scheme. Maybe I'll talk to a local vinyl wrap place to see what they can do in a similar area. My friend bought a 5.0 SL non EQ the exact silver color as mine and we ride together. He could have had black or yellow at the time though he hated the yellow, (I loved it), and...

I'd return it because when you need a lightweight e'bike they will be lighter and have more range.

Hopefully some members in the US took advantage of the rock bottom pricing for the SL1 5.0 and 4.0 non EQ at $2249/$1749 for that 2 day period which just past.

If I work quite hard I can get mid 20s on the SL1 so I suspect if you work quite hard you can get to 28 on the SL2. But if you are commuting then you arrive all sweaty which negates the point. As Stefan said, need a "too heavy to carry up stairs" full power e'bike. Personally I'll never have...

Loved my 1987 K75S, sadly totaled by a wily left turner in 2006; made the mistake of taking my eyes of her wheels. Here's when I had four bikes; down to one so the 1994 Miata can keep the bike and the Turbo Vado SL 5.0 company in the garage....and my old Schwinn Super Sport.

Nice, those days are behind me. This week I need to run the F800ST and get most of the old gas out of the tank by putting some maintenance miles on it. Haven't ridden it at all in 18 months; at 68 I lost the "bug" a few years ago after deciding 2 wheel time on a bicycle was better for me as I...