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  1. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    FWIW, I've ridden my Revolt through that exact water crossing many times. It looks really high there, so maybe early spring when the water is higher, but straight across is always deep (you can cut right and cross where its shallower and then ride along the far bank).
  2. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    Why would you need to actually pickup a gravel bike "often"? I ride some pretty gnarly gravel and basically never carry it. Gravel isn't cyclocross. The only time I generally lift my gravel bike is loading it onto bike racks or hanging it in the shop. I toss my emtb around a lot more than...
  3. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    Pretty good deal if its a bike you're interested in! If I was in the market now I'd probably buy a Trib, just because I want the ability to carry stuff and want good range with an emtb sized motor. I'm doing an addition on my house so money for bike upgrades does not exist until towards the...
  4. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    Salsa released the carbon version of the Tributary. I don't see any geometry changes, though its notable that its the same price as the original aluminum version ($5500 for the US spec rigid fork version). Spec is largely the same. Same motor, same battery, same basic build kit (updated to...
  5. jabberwocky

    Another ebike description of thieving Surron riders

    I swear, there is no group of people more entitled than the e-moto-pretending-to-be-an-ebike crowd. "Everyone needs to change how things work and enact speed limits and figure out how to enforce them so I can ride my overpowered "ebike" down paths and bike lanes!" :rolleyes:
  6. jabberwocky

    US health insurance and mtb

    As someone who has put themselves in the hospital a few times both mountainbiking and skateboarding, I don't remember anyone really caring how I was hurt. I showed up with broken bones/road rash/etc, the emergency room stabilized things, then booted me out with a referral to whatever specialist...
  7. jabberwocky

    The Future of eBikes: How Fast is Too Fast?

    They have every right to ride public roads. No danger is being created by people riding bikes; drivers have the responsibility to refrain from passing if they can't pass safely. The managing agency of the MUP near me has been known to message shops or groups that cause issues on the trails...
  8. jabberwocky

    The Future of eBikes: How Fast is Too Fast?

    IME roadie groups go much too fast for MUPs and bike lanes. Traffic lanes are generally the appropriate place for them. Most of the groups I've ridden with do their best to accommodate car traffic passing, but when you have a group of 20-40 roadies in a line, its hard to pass unless the road...
  9. jabberwocky

    Pennsylvania Rides | Meetups | Pennsylvania Riders

    Depending on timing and exact location, I may try and make the trip up from VA.
  10. jabberwocky

    The Future of eBikes: How Fast is Too Fast?

    I personally think the class definitions are pretty good in the US. I have a class 1 emtb and a class 3 egravel and think the cutoffs make sense for the use to which I put them. If anything they are on the generous side; 20mph is pretty fast on trails, and 28mph is actually bordering on...
  11. jabberwocky

    Creativity is on the decline

    Ebikes have gone from niche to mainstream. Most people don't want to deal with the hassle and headache of sourcing and building their own, troubleshooting, etc, they just want to pay someone money and get a bike to ride that works. Also, as ebikes have become more popular, the options...
  12. jabberwocky

    Twin motor trike custom build

    Why not? :p Everyone has to have a hobby. Obviously if you just want something to ride, buying two FS bikes and glomping them together into some sort of frankenstein monster makes zero sense, but sometimes building something ridiculous is just fun.
  13. jabberwocky

    Twin motor trike custom build

    I mean, if you just want a unique project, go for it. I think the main issue you'll have is two completely independent drivetrains that were not designed to work together is going to take some doing to actually make them give power at identical rates. Otherwise you'll have some weird torque...
  14. jabberwocky

    Throttles and California

    As Mr Coffee already said, roadies riding too fast on MUPs is an issue but not as much as you'd think. It just takes a lot of experience and fitness to ride anything resembling ebike speeds over distance, and by the time you get there riders are generally knowledgeable enough to not be too...
  15. jabberwocky

    Throttles and California

    I'm definitely not "anti-ebikers". To the contrary, I want to see access expanded as far as possible. I'm just realistic about the fact the limitations on what is considered an ebike is key to that happening. As Mr. Coffee said, if the general public can't distinguish between a legit class 2...
  16. jabberwocky

    Throttles and California

    In most locales in the US you are probably fine to ride anything vaguely ebike-shaped most anywhere as long as you aren't riding like an idiot. Depends on the locals and how heavily used things are. Ebikes are common enough now that even if your Bafang Ultra isn't technically compliant, you...
  17. jabberwocky

    Throttles and California

    The problem with this "regulate behavior and ignore power/limits!" mindset is that ebikers want access to a bunch of infrastructure that is not setup for car-style behavior regulation/enforcement because it has never been needed. MUPs/bike paths/MTB trails/etc have been around for decades and...
  18. jabberwocky

    Throttles and California

    JR is totally right in that pretty much none of that nice non-road infra and recreational trail was built by ebikers. It was all advocated for (and in may cases built by) groups associated with traditional cycling advocacy. And it was built specifically because those groups didn't want to...
  19. jabberwocky

    Throttles and California

    I commented earlier in the thread that its probably mainly a bludgeon to use against the worst manufacturers (head off any argument about "software can be set to 20mph therefor its a class 2" from people selling several thousand watt emotos). I would be extremely surprised if any enforcement...
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