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  1. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    The Kenevo has always been an odd one. The OG full power one was a full on DH bike with double crown fork, 220mm rotors, etc. The SL they tried to make more Enduro with single crown forks and a little less travel. I've never seen one in the wild, most people going Spec seem to opt for the...
  2. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    Yeah, but if they just came out it will be a while before bike mfgs modify frames for the new battery dimensions. I've always kinda wondered what cells Bosch/Yamaha/etc are using. I don't think its the latest and greatest. I assume the new batteries just upgraded cells to better capacity and...
  3. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    My YT Decoy with 540whr battery is pretty close to 50lb. So 22.5kg. I mean, its a heavy bike, but I rode DH for many years (mid 2000s to the early 2010s) and DH bikes in that era were in the 40s, so it doesn't feel that weird to me. I think my Turner was high 40s with a Totem and a little...
  4. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    Sure, I deal with the occasional downed tree. They aren't common on gravel roads (cars use those roads too so anything that blows over gets cleared pretty fast) but they do happen. I don't personally think 10lbs of bike weight really matters for the 2-3 times a year I need to shoulder my...
  5. jabberwocky

    Known Issues & Problems with Giant Products + Help, Solutions & Fixes

    I don't remember what tour maps to; I removed the screen on mine years ago. The mode you were using is what percentage assist (look in the Giant app, the previous owner may have changed it)? To figure out if something is up with the battery, you kinda have to start by figuring out how much...
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    Known Issues & Problems with Giant Products + Help, Solutions & Fixes

    What is eco set to? At the default 100% assistance I get 32ish miles (50km) out of the 375whr battery on my revolt. 1600 ft of climbing over 17 miles is a good amount of elev but id still expect more. If you’re heavier expect elevation to really kill range though. id also check that everything...
  7. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    They sell it with either a fox 34 or a rigid fork. The suspension version is definitely aimed at people who want to do singletrack touring and not just gravel.
  8. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    Hah, yeah. To be fair it does make sense. The shuttle runs I used to run in the Frederick Watershed drop almost 700 feet in less than a mile. If you're shuttling that and climbing the road (its a ~2 mile climb back to the top) you're going to eat battery in surprisingly few miles. For...
  9. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    That photo was on the lunch loops near Grand Junction CO. Theres definitely lots of trail there that I wouldn't want to ride a gravel bike on, but I think there are a few loops that are doable. Like lots of trail in the area of CO, you have long stretches that are basically smooth dirt trail...
  10. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    Thats a really nice looking bike! Solid choice. Cairn doesn't seem to have much US presence unfortunately. I've never known anyone who was unhappy with their Salsa. Never personally owned one but lots of friends who have had them. Heres a friend of mines Mamasita (and my Ibis) circa 2012...
  11. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    Dunno, maybe if y'all rode more capable bikes you wouldn't have to get off so much. :p
  12. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    FWIW, I've ridden my Revolt through that exact water crossing many times. It looks really high there, so maybe early spring when the water is higher, but straight across is always deep (you can cut right and cross where its shallower and then ride along the far bank).
  13. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    Why would you need to actually pickup a gravel bike "often"? I ride some pretty gnarly gravel and basically never carry it. Gravel isn't cyclocross. The only time I generally lift my gravel bike is loading it onto bike racks or hanging it in the shop. I toss my emtb around a lot more than...
  14. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    Pretty good deal if its a bike you're interested in! If I was in the market now I'd probably buy a Trib, just because I want the ability to carry stuff and want good range with an emtb sized motor. I'm doing an addition on my house so money for bike upgrades does not exist until towards the...
  15. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    Salsa released the carbon version of the Tributary. I don't see any geometry changes, though its notable that its the same price as the original aluminum version ($5500 for the US spec rigid fork version). Spec is largely the same. Same motor, same battery, same basic build kit (updated to...
  16. jabberwocky

    Another ebike description of thieving Surron riders

    I swear, there is no group of people more entitled than the e-moto-pretending-to-be-an-ebike crowd. "Everyone needs to change how things work and enact speed limits and figure out how to enforce them so I can ride my overpowered "ebike" down paths and bike lanes!" :rolleyes:
  17. jabberwocky

    US health insurance and mtb

    As someone who has put themselves in the hospital a few times both mountainbiking and skateboarding, I don't remember anyone really caring how I was hurt. I showed up with broken bones/road rash/etc, the emergency room stabilized things, then booted me out with a referral to whatever specialist...
  18. jabberwocky

    The Future of eBikes: How Fast is Too Fast?

    They have every right to ride public roads. No danger is being created by people riding bikes; drivers have the responsibility to refrain from passing if they can't pass safely. The managing agency of the MUP near me has been known to message shops or groups that cause issues on the trails...
  19. jabberwocky

    The Future of eBikes: How Fast is Too Fast?

    IME roadie groups go much too fast for MUPs and bike lanes. Traffic lanes are generally the appropriate place for them. Most of the groups I've ridden with do their best to accommodate car traffic passing, but when you have a group of 20-40 roadies in a line, its hard to pass unless the road...
  20. jabberwocky

    Pennsylvania Rides | Meetups | Pennsylvania Riders

    Depending on timing and exact location, I may try and make the trip up from VA.
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