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Thanks Stefan. And before I got my Creo I had a Vado sl for six months that I had tested the same way after reading your ( and mschwett’s) detailed analysis. That bike did perform like you say (roughly 1.8 X rider input + 20% for the motor electrical energy conversion). I never bothered to test...

Paul, I’m glad to see your post here because I have similar experience with my Creo that I have confirmed many times with both the Blevo app and the specialized rider app. My eco and sport mode do not use the 1.8X factor, it’s more like a 1.2X multiplication factor which makes the mechanical...

I have last year’s pre-mastermind creo and I just got the latest updates last week. My “Tune” tab in Mission Control now has the Charge Limit feature. It was turned off by default but it does turn on. I know from reading automotive EV battery studies that the 20-80% guidelines do significantly...

I am lucky to live where I am away from any congested area in ten minutes, then on rural highways and roads for the most part. In the most congested areas my Varia does pick up traffic that would not be a hazard. Even then I like that it shows the concentration of traffic and its relative...

My Garmin Varia radar tail light is the best accessory I’ve bought for a bike. It has been 100% reliable and my Garmin computer turns it on and off for me when I start and end a ride. I don’t get false positives, sometimes it picks up a car in the other lane that isn’t a threat, but I’d rather...

I’ll add my tubeless conversion experience here for anyone else considering it (I’m the O.P.) I finally wore out my stock specialized turbo pros that came with my Creo carbon comp. I got a pair of Continental gp 5000 s tr’s, 700 x 32 last week. I was surprised how easily they mounted. I used a...

Makes sense to me. I don’t know if your lbs could give you a class 1 sticker after resetting the firmware but they could give you an official looking statement describing the setting now being to “class 1 standard”. Seems like that would cover you.

I have seen signs on bike paths that exclude class 3 bikes but have not seen any enforcement. I don’t ride on bike paths myself but i can imagine the liability issue if someone was riding an “illegal bike” on a bike path and hit someone.

I emailed specialized tech support with that question last year when a friend was considering buying a Vado sl and was concerned with the law disallowing class 3 bikes on bike paths. Spec wrote back saying yes, it is a simple procedure for the bike shop to do.

A shipping possibility is bikeflights. They shipped my Vado sl from cal. To Colorado when I sold it and didn’t need the battery removed. I have heard they ship internationally but I’m not positive about that.

YouTube has a couple of clips of the tq hpr 50 motor noise in trek’s new mt bike and it’s really almost silent. The motor manufacture’s site shows the app it uses and it’s a lot like specialized’s, at least for programming the motor assist. Their eco mode stock setting is 55% assist with 200 w...

I had that same problem and I took the plastic motor cover off from the underside of the motor, cleaned it and reinstalled it and no more clicks! Be sure you put the cover back in place with the little front lip inserted. You’ll see what I mean by that if you look. Just one bolt on the bottom of...

Trek really emphasizes the new motor being almost silent, even providing graphs of its noise characteristics. The only complaint I have about my Creo is that I wish it was a little quieter, otherwise it’s the perfect (for me) bike. When I first read about treks new pin motor, I saw that it...

That tool looks like it would save the thumbs. Do you have the gp5000 TR on your wheels now? Continental claims the newer TR is much easier to instal than the 5000 TL. I’m looking for reviews of the TR specifically.

I’m considering going tubeless on my Creo comp carbon and the gp5000 TR gets a lot of good reviews. The TR version is hyped as being much easier to install and seat than the previous version. Does anyone have experience mounting these on the stock DT Swiss Creo wheels? And what about a road feel...

My Vado sl XL was a good fit for me, no parts changes needed. I added inner and outer bar ends for multiple hand positions, otherwise it fit me well. My Creo XXL is also a good fit. I put a 90 mm stem on it and it fits me better than other road bikes I’ve had. The creo XL I tried felt small to me.

Oh yeah, here’s my impressions of the difference: I put 1500 miles or so on a Vado SL 4.0 (XL), then decided I missed the subtle difference of a full-on road bike so I bought a creo carbon comp (XXL) at the 25% off sale price. I have over 1K miles on the creo now so I do have a good feel for the...

I don’t get it - if you have a bike with the correct length chain on it, why not just count the links, then order one with that size (or more)? That‘s got to be easier and more accurate than any measurement of the chain ring, jockey wheels, derailleur cage etc. I think if the bike specs included...

When you get your charge issue taken care of, I suggest getting the BLEVO app ($10, I think) and using that to show the battery charge capacity. It will show you the charge in Watt Hours, unlike the Mission Control app that just shows a percentage of battery health. That MC percentage seems to...

Ok, where’s that park bench? If that was on my route I’d be stopping to lube my chain every day.