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The waters are muddied to say the least. Except for signs that explicitly disallow ebikes, it is open to interpretation. You also need enforcement, and honestly, it just isn't there, and as such, no deterrence. That said, forums are a great place to have these debates and give opinions on the...

Surface 604's website was updated with this bike and some other model updates as well. Too early for any reviews yet, but there will be soon. Interested to see what riders think relative to the price point. I still prefer the Shred looks wise, but I do wish that the Shred came stock with the...

True. Ebikes are substantially heavier then their non-electric counterparts. Switch the motor off, and you'll feel it; that is alot of weight to be lugging around town, certainly doable, but range will be very limited. Removing the battery helps alot, but still, heavy nonetheless and not so...

That looks all too familiar. Indeed we do live in a biking and motorcycling "mecca" in my opinion.

Ditto. Now that I am riding, I am noticing just how many bikes/ebikes are on the roads/trails, and there are alot, multiply that in the mountains on the weekends. I have yet to observe any rider "not" pedaling. At stops or other gathering places, I haven't noticed anyone being the throttle...

This was a huge problem late summer in NorCal. You couldn't find anything, literally, just a long wall of empty bike display racks, and it was the same issue at mid-high end stores. It was crazy. Every sales person was of the same opinion that this was just unprecedented demand and no one could...

Thanks guys for the info on this. Point taken. Will start on the path of charging to 100% occasionally to extend the life and performance of the battery.

Like others have posted, I follow the manufacturers care and maintenance practices, in the case of the Shred, don't leave it charging for more than 12 hours, don't fully drain the battery, store the battery between 50%-75% charge, etc. I ride almost every day, so battery charge fluctuates...

I bought a Surface604 Shred. Works perfectly for my riding preferences and style. Class 3 ebikes are limited in where we can ride in the Mid-Peninsula Regional Open Space District however. That said, there is a ton of great places to ride within the confines of the Santa Cruz mountains to get...

I have a 2020 Shred and only 400 miles so far; lagging quite a bit from your 4200 miles. IMO, so long as chain is not elongated between links, shifting OK, no signs of rust/corrosion, not falling off under heavy load, etc, I would keep on riding it. You'll know when your chain/sprockets need...

Also potentially dangerous on shared paved paths. 20mph+ is pretty fast and you can't predict behavior or intention. People can and do get hurt.

That's my understanding. I wasn't aware it was illegal to manufacture an ebike with a throttle and still classify it as class 3 (PAS up to 28mph) and limiting throttle only (unassisted) to 20mph.

Not quite that bad at the LBS's here. However, they are hesitant, charge more, and take more time (medium priority). But if you bought the ebike there, your a preferred customer obviously and more willing to help. They are booked pretty solid and are very busy.

Hope not. At least from my perspective, current class 3 ebikes are more than good enough for me and my albeit small group of ebiking peers. Granted, I just got into ebiking a couple months ago, and getting more exposure to other ebikers, but so far anyways, no one is complaining about needing...