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Going into full conspiracy theory mode..... I saw 24 boxes in the back of a container, I have seen no proof of that container going anywhere near a port. simply by showing the container, Storm may be hoping for a surge in orders. The third wave is stuck on about 20 sales, so if showing the...

Whilst I havnt seen enough proof to convince me totally that the boxes are definitely full of e bikes, they most probably are, problem is I've seen one container (which we will assume for arguments sake is full of E bikes) ... so 250 odd bikes shipped out of a bit under 8000.. Spec has...

I think the Waves still apply, they are just producing enough of each colour for the first wave.. actually seems silly to me, as the second wave has closed as well, why not send them out too... and given the third wave has been going for about a month, and theres only 20 odd bikes ordered. might...

I think Sondors will look at refunds just after they start up their shipping rewards programme and their charity programme.

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this bikes specs have changed enough that the 60lbs weight will no longer be accurate. different motor, handlebars/ gooseneck, hand grips, throttle/ switchgear, controller, batteries. whats the bet it will be heavier. Glad you're back Ian, place hasn't been the same without you :) Just on the...

Heres the Current update, for those that havnt seen it. QUOTE. 10 hours ago Hi Sondors eBike Backers! I wanted to check in with everyone and give you a few updates. First, production is going strong with boxes continuing to be shipped out every day. We are producing bikes by color and in...

If I were being pedantic JoePah, I would point out that shipping was quoted as being May 1, not May 30, but its close enough, why fight over a month? I've seen no proof, nor any claim by Storm that 5000 bikes have been shipped. so far, I've seen one container, I'd really like to see more of the...

J.R. said: Link Removed Let's talk about your cycling expectations for your first ride on your new ebike. Will you provide video or pictures to us of your unboxing? Are your plans for ebiking to commute or just the average weekend putt-putt around the neighborhood? There's plenty of cycling...

are we sure that the batteries aren't shipping separately?

George, are you saying that any fines that may arise from batteries shipping inappropriately / illegally might be levied upon the customer?

The strap on the three boxes, really doesn't concern me that much, I don't think theres room for a pallet in that container, looks like loading would be by hand.. bike n box would weigh 40 odd kg, (80 pounds) or there abouts, that's enough for one man to lift into position, especially the top...

Given the way the seller has misrepresented the bike, the specifications and the character of the Founder, I think "whats inside the box" is the big question. I hope there is something more than hot air in there, I hope its not a staged picture. Given Storms past exploits, at this point, I'd...

15 bikes have been claimed for the third run (October delivery), still at $649. not too sure shares in Stormco would be worth much

Has there been a new update? something more than the 31st May update showing Ivars standing behind a truck with boxes showing in the back of the container? This could have gone in the fact finding thread I think?

I believe that even if Storm / Ivars does manage to ship all bikes to all customers (Doubtful IMHO) and they are of a quality and specification that matches the claims (again, Doubtful), Creditors, such as Agency 2.0 wont get the money Storm owes them. Should customers care what suppliers do...

Credible Hulk, I would suggest you take these concerns to Storm, I feel sure he will be back to you in no time :)

24 boxes in a container... No proof of shipping or bikes..

as did Tucker and a few others, to make 47 "production " Torpedo's :) Excuse my cynicism, this does appear to be good news for the funders Would really like to see some pictures of finished bikes, and pictures of the batteries.

Interesting that Sondors continues to make reference to "Buying" bikes. I wonder if such references could come back to bite them IF this whole thing ends up in court. could these be used to argue against crowd funding and for out right sales, and the consumer protection that offers?