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I am largely a suburban street rider and I largely ride for fitness and fun. The 38mm tires are just perfect for this in terms of rolling resistance, sturdiness, nimbleness, and longevity. They are sturdy enough to take a bit of abuse and provide a good road feel. They are not like the...

Yes they do....in silver anyway. What size are you looking for? Weight: I was referring to manufacturer published weights....which usually refer to medium frame size. EQ vs. Non EQ....frame size....all will slightly alter the overall weight of each bike. That said....for purposes of...

The Trek is more akin to the SL2 in my opinion....beefier frame than the SL1, slightly bigger battery than the SL1, and similar/same torque as the SL2. The SL1 by comparison is lighter, less powerful, has a generally slimmer frame profile, and features (very) slightly less battery power. The...

I am in my 50's ....have owned house(s) since my 20's....and have NEVER refinanced any house before. In 2021 I refinanced for the first time and cashed out a chunk (at an excellent rate) in anticipation of a house remodel. Then Covid hit and I put the whole deal on hold. In hindsight it was an...

I really need a kitchen remodel too. These days I am more risk averse than ever before and the kitchen remodel will just have to wait. I'll appease myself with the upcoming good weather and time on my bike(s).

I agree. I have only seen the carbon version and I wasn't thrilled. The SL1 is a sleeker and lighter bike. I know that we all bought and utilize these bikes differently. It seems to me that the reasons that originally drew me to the SL 1 have been abandoned. Lightweight, analog-like...

I only have one minor gripe about the SL 1. The motor noise annoys me a bit.

I just cannot get used to the flats. I'm too old for such a change. I've been skiing for 45 years and my friends say 'you should try snowboarding'. Same answer. Nope.

Hey Stefan...long time....hope you are doing well! I can understand the 'best of both worlds' argument in your case. I know that the SL 1 lacked range for your purposes....which indicates to me that you might welcome a bit of extra weight for the benefit of longer battery life and/or more...

Its tempting to bastardize that Credo 2 Comp E5 with a set of flat bars.

I only assume that with Future Shock included....Spesh felt that the (expensive) carbon fork was unnecessary. They might be correct.

I didn't see that the discussion of the new alloy version was taking place here in the Carbon thread....my bad....sorry. Ras...I agree with you. I'm sure this new alloy version SL is a lovely bike....but its core character MUST be changed when adding 26% weight to the bike (35lbs to 44lbs)...

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/turbo-vado-sl-2-50/p/4278244?color=5356063-4278244 I was anticipating this release. It looks pretty good. I must say....I really appreciate my 35lb original Vado SL 4.0. This latest iteration adds about 10 lbs which causes me to seriously question the "SL"...

All this talk of cycling is annoying me. It's far too cold to ride here. Arghhhhh.

Oh that is interesting. Now that I ride with my Shokz bone conduction headphones....motor noise is not much of an issue for me....even if motor noise does remain. For me to upgrade my 4.0 SL....I would need to have lighter weight, a more compliant (less rigid) frame, and a quieter motor. That...

I loved my betamax...it was always better than my later VHS lol. I've said it before..if I had one complaint..it would be motor noise from my 1.1 motor. It isn't a deal breaker type problem....it's just me being nit-picky. I'll leave it to the overlords at Spesh who decided to make a bike...

Yes I s'pose....but that is a smaller market even yet! Let's face it....those seeking range, power, and comfort were never SL buyers. Sure there might be a few die-hard roadies that find this appealing...but those folks are a tough sell on ebikes to begin with. I dunno....to each their own...

That response from Spesh is a misdirection imo. Those competitors utilize third party equipment and are limited in doing so. Spesh has the capabilities to out-engineer their competition but in this case out/over-engineered the use-case for this bike. Stefan I choose to believe that this...

THIS is exactly the issue....and this is precisely why I am disappointed with this new introduction. I had not been among those who felt that the SL was ever hindered by power/range....and I welcomed any trade-off(s) for the benefit of light, nimble, and analog-like. Sure there was always a...

Yes you have given me an epiphany. I think I will take my old 'beater' 4.0 SL and give it a good cleaning and carefully place it in bubble wrap with moth balls. Obviously my older SL will become a 'unicorn' bike highly desired globally for its low weight to motor power to battery supply ratio...