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This is quite common for IGH - none of the hubs allows you to shift easily under the load. Electronic shifters potentially allows shift detection to be used (I think Rohloff/Bosch combo offers it - correct me here if I am wrong). Do you have any info about their electronic shifting...

Interesting. What about lights and bike computer, horn (if you have one)? Do you like to keep track of multiple batteries charge level and re-charge them all periodically. Why not instead connect all this to single battery and keep track of it only?

This is great bike, one of the best on market for touring! Enjoy!

It is getting better for sure - since I switched from SmartphoneHub to Nyon, I don't remember much issues with connectivity or functionality. It is limited, opinionated and difficult to integrate into, but core things work well. Next gen Bosch is even better from this side. However I definitely...

OK, don't want to do a holy war here, let's assume I agree. Except one fact - those are Brose Motors, not Specialized.

Hm, I doubt it. At least in motor space, I don't see why Bosch motors worse. What are the criteria? Power? Noise? Torque? Weight? Software wise it is also debatable, but I probably would agree, that Specialized bikes are more open for integrations than Bosch ecosystem.

Agree! Good luck to both of us to get some reasonable mileage from our hubs. This is why my interest for 3x3 - if (when?) 2nd Kindernay fails I will need something to replace it and 3x3 option looks promising. I actually like Kindernay VII - it is super nice when it works, but it doesn't last...

Totally agree about everything you said, I think your 2nd post answers the question in yours 1st one ;) One question to you - did you ever try riding the top-level mid-drive ebike with torque sensor, like Specialized or Gazelle or even R&M (which is actually cost $10k or more)? There is a...

Thanks for sharing! I am also early adopter of Kindernay VII and my first one failed after about 8 month (and ~1800 miles on it), but they did replace it for me (was lucky to get the replacement before they got into troubles and stop selling stuff) and replacement is currently in use for 16...

Why not? People are spending $120k for sedan, while there are perfectly fine alternative for $60k - why won't they do this for ebike. First of all $10k is much more realistic money to get and spend, than $120k, and 2nd - lots of such buyers don't have car (myself including) and I don't have...

It is mechanical on the photo. Electronic theoretically possible, but I didn't find any place where it being sold.

That's great! Can you share more? Did you get this with bike? Or bought and retrofitted yourself? Where did you buy it from and how much it cost? With Kindernay our of business, this is probably next great 3rd-party hub out there, so I am really interested to learn more from real user!

Just get new bell either online or visit your local bike shop. There is nothing special about the bells Gazelle use, any will work.

Cal you clarify please what "ring" are you talking about? Gazelle ebikes come with bell preinstalled. Or you are talking about horn?

Did couple of times, pretty easy actually - there are two lines, with one connector on the shifter and two on the hub adapter. With two syringes process literally takes 10-15 minutes for both lines.

Crossing this bridge twice a day during my commute rides for about 3 years already, but first time looking at it from this angle...

Don't forget to share your experience once you get it! What ebike/ebikes you have/had before?

They don't - both are top-quality e-bike motors. Choosing one is a matter of preference (I don't think there are ebike brands offering models with both from Bosch and Brose) and availability.

With all the respect to Gazelle, I doubt it is first in US - R&M announce and made their 2024 models earlier this year, and they have i.e. Riese & Muller Nevo4 GT Vario HS bike, which is Class 3, Smart System, Performance Line Speed and Step-Through frame design. I think you don't need to be...