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Part of what my thoughts on the whole patch thing is there is a point when throwing another patch isn't worth it not that you shouldn't patch in some cases.

yeah about that filtration is a good idea. I short of due but would recommend checking with someone else about filtration.

I find myself drinking from streams from time to time.

I have my own tow truck..... I pick it up and put it on my shoulder🤣

That is what I like about my ebikes same easy rear wheel removal as a non ebike

I do have one bike with quick release that is as fast if not faster to pull off and do depending on the situation.

I would definitely depends on the flat and other things like the fat bike tire verse a skinner road tire put the same number of patch on both and it's not the same. I actually have a tubeless tire that has a vulcanized patch because of how much tread life it has left and fact that it not at risk...

It's about the repeated patching of a tube that gets me and some cases swapping out the tube check for source of puncture and then patching the tube later and using it as the spare makes more sence or recycling it for something else or throwing out because it at the point were that the more...

Yes I can see where some hub motor guys would lean that way. Also I was talking more in terms of tubes that were patched repeatedly.

If I understand correctly this is a line of Giant bikes? Where does it fall is it a lower line, a different line or what?

I am puzzled for the most part as why some people keep patching tubes instead of replacing them. I keep thinking of Christmas story and the bald spares😀. Curious at what point do you think a tube should should be replaced or why you should keep patching it?

But...... why didn't you have a spare bike in your back pocket???

If your freehub fails (doesn't engage) then you can zip tie the cassette threw 1st gear to the spokes to limp home you just loose 1st gear and have to take easy on the cranks. I wasn't talking about a loose chain. I was referring to hacks you can use when you find yourself stranded on your bike...

well said

There is always a possibility of a flat which requires changing that a small compressor and slime won't get you home. Not that having those thing doesn't help reduce the chance of having to do that . By the way I don't fix tubes myself much just put them in to get home if sealant or plugs don't...

You mean single speed of determination!💪

I strongly suggest looking at hacks you can do to get yourself home like zip tying your cassette to your spokes. Which reminds me I probably should through some zip ties in my bag.

I think one should have the tools to fix a flat and be able to fix one. Not to be confused with someone who finds it hard to change one but can in a pinch. Honestly if you can't it is a little questionable as to whether you should ride.

That is one thing that is important to me is that my bike pedals well without power and mine do. The motor dying and not having enough battery power can be 2 different things. I did purchase bigger batteries for extended range.

The question is the 8% just normal or is it something that should be deeply look at?