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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Yep, use the Chris Davies Article to support your claim of vast different bike and claims
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    ...but not when manufacturing is all in place with a capacity of 12-14000 bikes a month.......(Chris Davies/Slashgear, 2nd Feb 2015) In fact please re-read the article, clarifies the spec, the DELIVERY date of May 2015 and that all manufacturing was in-house (in correspondence with me he...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    CH, let me correct you if I may - estimated delivery date was May (I assume 2015) - shipping date was NOT May 2015, delivery date WAS - that money is gaining interest all the time......
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    @J.R. how do you interpret the terms of the insurance which I am quoting from memory about if not delivered within three months of the delivery date - the only delivery date that was quoted was an estimated delivery date - curiously the perk insurance has since been removed and is no longer...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    @Brambor - the Aspergers article was timed to justify his lack of interaction with funders who have misplaced their trust - he has abused it already, period. As a Campaign Owner funders and would-be funders are fully entitled to ask questions of a product, but what Sondors has done is put...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Seriously though, what makes some of us sceptics and others believers? The scam of bandying around one bike only in different guises is so transparent, to reiterate if Ivars had the ability to shut sceptics up at this late stage he would by posting a picture of loads of bits or bikes, but he...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    @Hurley, your last post gives the impression that you feel that there actually will be bikes and they really will ship at some stage...... call me a cynics (the cries are deafening) but we are a long way from discussing the manner of packing or anything else for that matter. If Ivars had...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    And what do you make of that Trev?
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Keep the faith? Did I write that? I would play them at their own game personally CH, educate yourself with understanding your Rights in this situation, give Sondors as much leeway as possible until you are uncomfortable and then reel it in if you want to - for each person that will be...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Has anyone got a link or update on the Court Hearing on May 6th 2015 or do funders have to wait for the July Hearing to find out what effect if any it will have on the manufacture and distribution of the bikes, nice card to hold Sondors!!! #purposeful?
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    My reading of the update was that the bikes - with an estimated delivery of May 2015 plastered all over IGG) - would not even ship in May, and then there were vague references to shipping container loads and ground deliveries. So Ivars, how long will shipping take? 4-6 weeks if there are no...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    The latest update has nothing convincing and it does not evidence anything at all - there are enough vagaries in there as you may expect to stretch the window for delivery, this campaign will be fraught with technical and logistical problems without any network to support owners. Just wait for...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    I was going to mirror pretty much what FTC stated but without all the clever stuff - if and it is a big IF you get your bike. Might appear unrelated but read this - http://time.com/3831323/trek-bike-recall/ s*it happens in life and it only takes a couple of incidents in 7000+ bikes...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    It is following me - I have tried to get away with it, looking at buying new block paving for my garden (two new metal sheds for my bikes :) ) and look what jumps out at me!!! Someone is paying for this advertising - and it is not me!!!!!!
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    “We have stated shipping as the maximum amount in the perk but will be much less. …” “the more we sell the cheaper it is. We can guarantee is will be less than $194 each for USA and $247 for International.” now, having secured funds on the promise of 7000+ ebikes… Will the cost of shipping go...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    kind of you brambor must have been difficult!
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    I am not against crowdfunding in principle, but there needs to be more safeguards put in place IMHO. My claim all along has been that the performance specs are wildly exaggerated and not achievable on a bike of that value, and that the shipping guarantee of less - MUCH LESS - was misleading and...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Have you got a link please? I stole your line on IGG, and yes I am passionate about not getting ripped off or seeing others get ripped off. So shoot me. (I cannot find any such article)
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Exhibit I Thu Feb 5 2015 11:05AM From Storm Sondors Dear Chris, We understand the barrage of questions you are facing. We also understand the potential to increase sales by being responsive to each and every consumer. …. We will do our best to answer questions and contribute in any way we...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    FTC ....your otherwise decent post did not make reference to the bounced cheques reportedly ranging from $20k-$90k. I speak with some knowledge from the UK where a cheque is a promise to pay the bearer and is only unenforceable in the event of fraud or duress. At a minimum Ivars is getting to...
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