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Doesn't have to be for the story to be (effectively) true. It would be far simpler - and much less expensive - for Specialized's developers to use the same code base for both Mission Control and the Globe app, and just reskin it with a new UI. (in English - take the existing code, change just...

That's nice. ;) 35 years ago I was SunOS/Solaris sysadmin & network manager having upgraded our installation from BSD4.2 systems on Vax 11/750's. I think that's a more accurate description, less likely to give readers an incorrect understanding of the matter. 👍

No, the bikes aren't bricked -- that means something completely different than you imply; the term refers to a device that is completely nonresponsive/nonfunctional and (usually) cannot be returned to a usable state. Is the issue due to a firmware bug? Maybe. Is it due to a Mission Control...

@Cecilsmichie Some thoughts as a guy who has an aluminum Creo SL E5 setup for gravel, a Vado 5.0, and a carbon Domane road bike (analog); I previously had an aluminum hybrid (analog) but sold it when I bought the Creo. I think the views of aluminum vs carbon frame differences can get a little...

Another thought - if the main desire is alternate hand positions and a slightly more aggressive riding position, you can flip the stem for free to drop the bars down a bit, and change grips to the Ergon GP3 / GP4 / GP5 style.

@radiant3centaur there's a bit of geometry differences beyond just the handlebars. Check out this site for numbers, and then this site for the graph below. Ride the Vado SL and consider if changing handlebars (and perhaps stem) would really have any true change in your ride posture. The 2022...

A bit of decision-tree analysis might help you step away from the emotional aspects of the decision which lies ahead of you. You have four options as I see it: (A) keep the Vado SL and ride it as-is, (B) modify the Vado SL such as @Avg_Joe suggests, (C) buy a Creo SL, sell the Vado SL, or (D)...

Peloton mode is just reduced light intensity, no communication with surrounding devices. From Garmin:

I'd ask: are you wearing padded cycling shorts, and have you had a proper bike fitting done and discussed the saddle issues?

Maybe I'm overcautious but I tend to shy away from newly released motors - particularly during the early part of their first year of availability since repair/replace parts availability can be limited. Perhaps consider finding a deal on a used Creo for this year and re-evaluate after the TQ and...

@mogulman Seems you're gonna have to try it and report back. I'm going to guess the answer is no though. Specialized says the max tire size is 42mm. They give the same spec for 700x42c on the Creo, and with my Pathfinder Sport tires there's very little clearance between the tire and the drive...

@sanyata yeah, I'm a bit lighter than you (and likely correspondingly shorter), so if I were on 38's the SRAM calculator suggests 44 front, 47 rear. My Creo E5 came with 28's which I immediately changed to Pathfinder 42's upon getting it home (it's intended for gravel mostly) and the...

@sanyata just out of curiosity, what psi were you using with tubes and what psi you using tubeless? How do those compare to the SRAM recommended pressures for each? For me the difference is under 4psi on 42’s. https://axs.sram.com/guides/tire/pressure

Not sure I'd call the SL 5.0 EQ yellow "screaming"... Saw one in person and it seemed kinda muted due to the matte/satin finish. It's nice, and it's different, but not as vibrant as I'd anticipated from the website. @paterbil assuming the roads of PA aren't any better than the roads of...

@Jack Cox it’d make sense that there will be a new Creo with a 1.2 motor, the only question is when and what other changes they will make to it. My guess is they’ll retain the E5 with a 1.1 motor and put the 1.2 in the carbon frames. IMHO the wise person waits until the new Creo is released...

The answer is N+1 of course. Domane (analog) for road, Creo for gravel / WMA & FS roads. :D

@mmwada no worries, I've not had a lot of time to think about pumps and such yet. Carrying an extra CO2 cartridge for now. The offset mount - I presume something like the B-RAD Bottle Shift - makes sense and I'll likely give it a try.

@freewheeling thanks for the info on the Vado SL setup, I've not had a chance to look at it in person. I've seen the BBG and a couple others such as FSA. Thanks. I'm hoping someone's already ridden down this path and has some insights to offer before I spend the money on something, or perhaps...

@freewheeling to make it even more interesting, the gravel-oriented Creo EVO models come with a 44T chainring not 46T. But it's the 5-bolt pattern not the Vado SL's 4-bolt.

Sure, may not cover all instances, but with a usual 1/8" overhang it'll help - and provide some protection against the contact-stain at the top/front portion of the chain ring. I can always go with the old school methods I've used for decades, but figured why not explore the possibility of...