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Well, i guess i'll figure it out for myself. I can't imagine anything being better than the brose anyway.

LOL. I know. Maybe I'll have it figured out when the 2018 closeouts roll through. Riding the Turbo Levo with brose muddied the water for sure. I would have bought it, if it had been in my price range.

After a good bit of research, I'm looking at ; Haibike Sduro Allmountain 6-0 or 6-5 (yamaha) Bulls e-stream evo 3 (brose) Easy motion atom lynx 4.8 or 6.0 (brose) I loved the brose in the turbo levo I tried, but haven't tried Yamaha.

weight-225, physical condition fair, riding style conservative, looking for FS either 27.5 or 29 for intermediate singletrack in mountainous terrain as well as gravel and paved roads,budget 2500-3000. On a test ride yesterday, the lowest setting on a turbo levo was plently of assistance on...

I wonder how the active line and active line plus compare to the Brose as far as noise level ?

I rented Specialized Turbo FSR 6Fattie with 3" tires today and was absolutely floored by it's performance. Rode in lowest assist level on intermediate single track with tons of rocks and lots of climbing, in slick conditions. The bike stuck to trail like it was on rails. Only used 3 bars out of...

Where are you finding these to demo ? I can't find anyplace remotely close to NW North Carolina.

Interested in getting info from folks who have had two or more different motors such as; reliability,range,hill climbing power,noise level... if this has been addressed in another thread, please direct me to it.

I'm hearing that the Magura is flexy...anyone have one ?

No haibike demos anywhere nearby, but I'm going to test a Turbo Levo tomorrow and see how it handles the trails. It will be my first chance to ride an ebike. I'm hoping to find a bike that is versatile enough to be enjoyable on all riding surfaces.

Yep. It looks like Bosch on the higher trim levels, but I think I'd rather have the Yamaha. Is the Yamaha PW-X going to be worth passing out the closeouts and getting a 2018 ?

Yep,I've read just about everything pertaining to Haibikes here, as well as scouring the leftover 2017 spec sheets. I have a two 29ers, a Turner Sultan FS and an inexpensive Motebecane hardtail. There is a night and day difference between ride quality, so I'm trying to pay attention to the...

The more I read, the more confused I get. Are there drawbacks to choosing a Haibike FS instead of a hardtail in terms of noise and accelerated wear on the drivetrain ? Also what do you feel is the minimum spec level for a reliable Haibike ? The last thing I want to do is buying a bike that will...

After lurking around on endless-sphere and waiting on the technology for several years,my knees tell me that it is time to make a move for an ebike. Looking for a fs MTB 29 or 27.5 as an all purpose ride in mountainous terrain. I would like to stay under 3k,unless there is a compelling reason to...

I'm not worried about the weight, but each of these bikes are more expensive. The choices On 2017 Haibike Sduro are; Rock Shox Reba 100mm-fullnine 6-0 Rock Shox Yari RC 150mm-allmtn 6-0 for Magura Boltron 150-all mtn 6.5 for Anyone have experience with any of these ?

LOL. That's what I'm afraid of...

For those of you with other non-electric bikes, how much are you using them after purchasing an e-bike ?

Thanks, Bob. It looks like the RC RX 2016's have bosch,but the 2017's have Yamaha PW. Which is better for mountainous terrain ? I'm looking at the Sduro Fullnine 6-0(100mm travel) and the Sduro Allmountain 6-0 (150mm travel)

Thanks,Rocky. As far as trim levels, what is the equivalent of RC and RX in the 2017 models as far as shocks. The 6.0 has Rock Shox and the 5.0 have suntour in the 17 Sduro. I'm always interested in learning about the weak link that makes you wish that you spent a little more $.

Well, we have alot in common. My mom passed with dementia a couple of years ago, so I can empathize with you. Hang in there. The hardest thing i ever had to do was take my mom's car keys...after that a downward spiral. Biking is the only thing that does not hurt my knees these days,so I'm...