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I think the Bafang BBS02 750 watts, BBSHD 1000 watts and, the ultra up to 1500 watts those are some pretty powerful mid-drives. I see only 250 and 350 watts on the Bosch. So if the gear set and chainrings are the same the only difference being the watts on the motors would this not make the...

Bob, what is your touring bike model and setup? I have thought of a setup like this guy on youtube with a Trek 820

They could start with basic mechanical bicycle repair since that is the basis of all E-bikes. Bikes shops and mechanics are slowly dying off. All the basics are the same as regular bicycles and really needed for a strong foundation in Ebikes. I own a machine shop and all the kids coming out of...

When Newton-meter is given for a bike I would take it this is the maximum torque at the rear wheel is this thinking correct?

Are the Bafang mid-drives more powerful than Bosch or Yamaha?

@Mr. Coffee Thanks for that info

@elyhim Verve has a very very low powered system and I do not believe it would handle my area very well.

@TForan I am sure this is so but I also assume that fat tire bikes are geared more like mnt. bikes than commuter bikes are.

Ebike of NE has best hill climber search page. Interestingly it does not have any of the bikes I had been looking at except for the Stromer http://www.ebikesofne.com/HillClimbingE-Bikes-s/1901.htm?searching=Y&sort=1&cat=1901&show=48&page=1

@BobG I will keep my eye out for you as well as let you know when I finally decide. @Bruce Arnold I agree with great info. Real-world performance, video, and perspectives are awesome.

Raining here now snow is finally melting hopefully done for the season. I will have to get back down to see Paul at NE Ebike and try the 3 bikes mentioned above.

Wow @JayVee That adds perspective @PCDoctorUSA yes Ebikes of NE is my local but does not have the hills close by. Great guy with lots of knowledge I rode a Stromer ST1 and a couple of Haibikes there. I did not try the Urban plus there nor did I ride any Bafang powered bikes. In the old...

@PCDoctorUSA My options are limited as well, I would have to drive all over New England just to try the bikes on my list. @mrgold35 yes I need fenders and racks

dielectric chain lube lmao

@PCDoctorUSA So you are thinking I would have to go with more of a mountain bike rather than comfort commuter.

Thanks for your input Bruce, I am not looking for high speed as my motorcycles cover that end of things for me. I am just looking for a comfortable way to add a little more exercise to my life. So changing a chainring on a faster bike to give the desired comfort on hills is something I can live...

@JayVee Age 55 5' 10" 190 lbs. fitness much better than most my age as well as some of the younger guys that work for me. Mount Washington Valley NH is filled with hills most 3-9% grades but there are many stretches over 10%. Just the hill heading up to my house is a 13% grade several hundred...

Mini type is a definite no go with me. I have thought about fat tire and really do not believe I want to go that route for commuting. I would like to stay lower cost, but my love of quality keeps sending me to the higher price arena. My short list is Juiced CCS, Haibike Urban Plus, Velec R48M...

Thanks for that info

Here is my dilemma my LBS has no major hills nearby that would be similar to my daily commute. I like the Stromer ST1 Elite how does this compare to the more powerful motor of the Radcity hill climbing? If I go the mid-drive route I would most likely look for an internal hub or Nuvinci system...