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Same here. My LBS is a Specialized company store. I test-rode 4 different bikes (10-15 miles each time) and was able to find the bike that worked for me. That's worth a lot.

Placed my order today! :D🚲🎉

That's good to know! I was concerned that the 4.0 might have more power than I wanted. The 3.0 had plenty of power in Sport mode, effortlessly holding 18-20mph on flats. If the 4.0 has more, does that mean I won't get any exercise? Or will a single stroke of the pedals zoom me up to 30mph...

Went for another test ride today -- Vado 3.0. I think this is it! The Vado SL was painful after only 5 miles or so, and I couldn't wait to get back to the shop and dump it. The non-SL Vado felt GOOD, comfortable, nimble. Maybe not 110% perfect, but some of that will just be getting used to...

For storing a heavy ebike in limited space, consider some of the pulley/hoist systems. Search google or Amazon for "bike hoist" and there are lots of options. Getting an ebike into a car can definitely be a challenge. Last summer I had a Lectric XPremium for a while. Heavy beast, weighs...

Huh. Was that a recent change? I was looking all over for weights, and I thought I picked through every likely page on the Specialized site. Now it's there and easy to find.

You would think it was an industrial secret. They sure don't publicize the weights very well. Best reference I've found is https://specialized.picturepark.com/Go/KejC9jbq/V/51311/1 It says the Vado 3.0 / 4.0 / 5.0 weigh 23.5 / 23.5 / 23.0 kg.

You are not the only nerd in this conversation. 🤣 25% is a significant difference, and significantly more than the calculator claims. I agree the 90 Nm motor has a ridiculous amount of torque. If you want that much power, get a motorcycle !! That much oomph would be useful for the 10%...

The label says it has 34% more Wh, yes. Does that actually translate to 34% more range? I don't know, but the Range Calculator says no. Seems odd that Specialized would promote a false range calculation. 10% more peak doesn't worry me. What exactly is the Boost Factor? Is that a...

I agree it SHOULD be worthwhile. Do you believe the Range Calculator? It claims the bigger battery (710 vs 530 Wh) only gets you about 10-12% more range. But it also claims you get more range on hills than on flats, sooo... I haven't tried the non-IGH Vado 3.0 yet (50 Nm) but I did a 10 mile...

Yeah, that's some of what I was feeling. Thanks for clarifying it! I doubt I'd like the Automatiq. Every car I owned for 50 years, from 16 until I got a Tesla last year, was a stick shift. Never liked automatic transmissions. I'm not usually a control freak but ... Guess I'd better stick...

I stopped at the LBS again today. They'd brought in a Como 3.0 with IGH. It rode OK, but I was surprised that I wasn't in love with the IGH. It worked, but ... just didn't feel great? Hard to explain. I was surprised that the top "gear" topped out so early. I was spinning like mad at...

I see. I'll try to check out the Vado next time I'm there. But if it's similar geometry, the suspension won't help. It would help the rough ride, but not the leaned-forward posture that I don't like. It's about impossible to find weights on the Specialized site (I mean really, who cares what...

Looking at the Vado and Vado SL frames, they are different but the geometries look nearly identical. Here's a bad attempt to overlay them. (Red = Vado, silver = SL) Not perfect, but the overall rider geometry seems very similar. Possible. 😄 I rode a Como about 100 mi in 2 days last...

Power wasn't the problem with the Vado SL -- the geometry just didn't work for me, and I assume the Vado would be similar. I was in minor pain after a 10 mile ride. I'm sure it would get better as I got used to it, but I'd rather start out with a bike that doesn't hurt me. The LBS is getting...

It was warm(ish) today so I went out for a couple of test rides: 11mi on the Turbo Vado SL 5.0, 7mi on a Trek Verve+ 3. The Vado SL is *LIGHT*. For an ebike anyway, 35lbs or so. It felt like a normal bike, and in fact it was quite easy to pedal without any electric boost. It's a bit...

The climbing isn't what worries me. It's bombing DOWN those steep/rough/rocky trails. That sounds like a medical emergency just waiting to happen. Your "terrible" English is vastly better than any non-English language I speak! I know bits of German, French, tiny bits of Swedish, a little...

True for the Vado, unfortunately not for the Vado SL. You have to remove the motor &etc to get at the battery. :( So it's not a good solution for winter storage & charging. We have lots of >10% trails around here, but I don't plan to ride 'em. I don't want to ride on steep hiking trails...

Thanks, @jtooley. If it works for you, it oughta work for me. Bummer that the 5.0 is $1000-1500 more than the 4.0, and that the step-throughs aren't on sale!

@mschwett yes I've been looking too. :) Specialized Denver does not seem to be a company-owned store. It's "now part of the Incycle Marketplace," which is apparently a Southern California-based chain or association of bike shops. They're expanding -- we have two of them in town as of last...