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After downloading the manual for the Creo, I noticed it lists the models that will 'eventually' be available: CREO SL SW CARBON CREO SL EXPERT CARBON CREO SL EXPERT CARBON EVO CREO SL COMP CARBON CREO SL COMP CARBON EVO CREO SL E5 COMP ( I expect this is the aluminum version)

I think the aim of this product line is to provide a little support. The Vado is the work horse if you need lots of support. If you need a lot of help, I don't see this as the right choice so the lower torque and wattage is not a problem. I have a Vado and it can climb very steep grades with...

I had a similar issue and replacing the speed sensor fixed it. Just a possibility.

Thanks Good to know That effects my interest for sure

I could see a version without the carbon wheels and maybe another without Di2 to lower the cost Probably going with aluminum would make it to much like the Vado so I don’t think we will see that All speculation of course

My Vado has a 42 volt system Custom charger, 42V4A w/ Rosenberger plug So maybe the Creo is just another variation

Ebiker01, Good point but I think that can be said about any bike costing this much. Depreciation is fast and steep. Just like a car.

If only I had a spare 10k for a new bike I would be putting in the order. VERY nice machine! Exactly what I would want in all respects.

Exactly :-)

I think specialized getting notified is internet gossip. The bike and head unit have no way of contacting specialized. The app could do it but I personally do not believe that would be happening. Just to much chance of legal action against them. My opinion so believe what you want.

Also, none of the software hacks work now with the recent changes specialized made. No Vado/Como can be changed via software hack. The Levo 2020 model is also not hackable along with the 2019 Levo if the software is updated.

Mine is a Vado 3. It was set to the default after I got the display replaced with the new one. I think the default was 2200 but I'm not totally sure. It was very close to GPS accurate according to my Garmin next to it but if anything, slightly high. The new software is limited to what the min...

I had it changed to the minimum (2000) so that I could get a tiny bit more speed before the limit kicked in. It now reads 2km/h lower than actual GPS speed but I always use RideWithGPS to record rides so I don't care about the accuracy of the readout or distance covered.

No longer changeable in the app. You need to have the dealer change the settings. Simple fix for the dealer I have had mine changed. Takes about 1 minute for them to do it :-)

When I had my Vado 3 updated, the initial settings were 30/30 60/60 100/100. When you select reset in the app the eco is set to 35/35. Don't remember what the others are set to by the app reset. I got the Vado to replace my road bike after a heart attack. I use the new settings to give me a...

Same here in Canada. Might be a line from the dealer.

You just need the dealer to update you to the new TCD-w display. My dealer did it no charge as I hear most are doing. Some people have had difficulty getting the dealer to do it. When you have the new display unit, the app works fine. Also the new display has a power meter built in and connects...

Make sure you are using the NEW 2.0 mission control. I had the new one and the old one on my phone and mistakenly launched the old app. Only the new app will find the bike. Might not be your problem but something worth checking.

Canada gets 32k max which is 20mph. LOCKED down tight!

I guess you must be in the USA. In Canada, we are limited to 32k which is about 20mph. Sure would be nice to have the US limits