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This is an interesting subject. I noticed when my LBS was checking the wheels he was squeezing the spokes in pairs and then went around with a tool. Can an end user tighten spokes without using/needing a truing stand? I am a heavy rider so keeping my spokes in good order is important. Any...

I asked my LBS to check the spokes on my Vado 5.0 and they said they found no issues. It could be your wheels got a knock in transit.

I have not bashed him, or questioned your judgement. Sorry, what is a "snow job"? Not sure what you are expecting from your new bike...:D

No play at all in my Vado 5.0 battery mounting.

I have no interest in talking to somebody called Rene, as I said as long as your happy that's all the matters. One thing you may not have considered is any load you may be carrying. A grocery shop for example can be very heavy and if you have to go uphill the more torque you have the better.

She is talking about a man at the end of the phone not her LBS, come on pay attention old man :)

"imperceptible (Specialized word)" Come on, they want to sell you what they have in stock! As long as your happy that's all that matters.

Also factoring in you are buying two bikes I can see why you went the 4.0 route. The 4.0 is an excellent bike you will not be disappointed, when is the delivery day?

Define big? In my region the 5.0 was only $400 more so well worth it for the uplift in spec.

If you have the funds get the 5.0, also the bigger motor makes a difference if you are a heavy rider. Other then that I concur with Stefan's comments above.

New Vado 5.0 (L) owner here, very happy with my bike, I went for Chain over IGH and do not regret my choice.

I went for the 5.0 over the 4.0 for the following reasons:- More powerful motor (I'm a heavy rider) Better front fork Better brakes. (Very important on a heavy bike) Rear Radar The feature that surprised me the most was the radar on the rear of the 5.0, it has saved me a few times from nutcase...

+1 Time for the OP to move on as this is the Specialized e-bike forum.

If It Wasn’t for Bad Luck You Wouldn’t Have Any Luck At All! Seriously, that is not good. I hope it's not as bad as it sounds.

We're waiting, what's wrong with your new bikes?

2nd gpburdell's post.

What spec are you going for?

The Tero X 6.0 looks great, for me I did not want the whole rear suspension MTB vibe so went a different route. Are you sure you want to buy Specialized again? I have a feeling your current LBS may decline your custom going forward.

I should have mentioned all my old steel bikes were custom made for me, it is the only way to guarantee a perfect fit and ride. I would love to get a custom electric bike made but there is no one in the UK offering this service, hence I went with the 2022 Vado 5.0.

The 2022 Vado 5.0 comes with 32h, I am going to see how they go but I will probably add a custom wheel set.