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The X20 hub motor actually puts out 23Nm of torque, which is “comparable to a 55 Nm Mid Drive”.

I've been looking into e-road bikes lately, thinking maybe I'll get one or go for a conversion kit🧐 I noticed someone mentioned they rarely use the assist, and when they do, it's just on levels 1 or 2. So I'm wondering, how much torque do you usually need? I've been looking at Scott Addict...

Thanks for your help! I'll think it over.

I agree, it does look kind of weird! The price is definitely steep. I wonder who would actually buy a Skarper. Really not gonna affect the handling at all?

You're right

Keyde seems too bulky🥹

The e-ride version does mess with the original bike's geometry, and it's not for everyone. I've looked into Boost too, and it just seems way too bulky! What's your take on Skarper? I've noticed you've been mentioning it a lot.

I'm with you on that. I checked out this Keyde product, and it seems to have a fake thru-axle (with two bolts securing it from the sides). What do you think about it?

I'm curious if the front hub motor's operation affects steering responsiveness.

Is it 'cause the bigger batteries are just too bulky?

From what I've seen, I think Mahle really hits the mark, or, this kind of product spec is just spot on for road bikes.

Thanks for the suggestion! That bike looks pretty cool! It's got a Bafang H600 motor which is supposed to have up to 42Nm of torque. I'm not sure if users can tweak that torque number through software.

I totally agree with you, most of the kit out there is just too heavy for light bikes. I think in the future, these kits really need to get lighter and smaller. Are there any road bike users among those you mentioned? I'd love to share what I've learned about the products and my thoughts...

I dont like front hub motors either. I feel like they don't handle as well as rear hub motors.

I'm curious how much did the whole kit cost you?

Thanks for the recommendation, Kevin! 10 pound weight's kinda heavy.

I've checked out that product before, but I felt like it might look a bit odd on a road bike. Having the weight all on one side, I think it might mess with the handling.

Nice👍 I guess you're not a fan of those modded kits, so maybe not into it, right🤔

I'm curious where's the battery on that left bike?

Totally tempting, that price!