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    Disc Brakes and Pads

    I don't have experience with Swissstops yet but am considering for replacements when needed. Looks like the ebike specific pads are "hardened" for longevity/fade at the expense of stopping power/noise. Depends on your own preferences which you choose to prioritize...
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    Larger Tires on 2021 Vado 4.0 SL

    Haven't tried the Marathons, but 38 mm pathfinders fit fine on my 4.0 EQ. 42mm SWorks pathfinders will rub on the rear fender mounting bolt. Didn't try the front since I had the fender removed at the time.
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    specialized creo 2

    From the Creo 2 user manual: The charge level of the battery is displayed during your ride on the display of the MasterMind TCU. The charge level can be customized to show in any of the fields on any page of the MasterMind TCU. At approximately 15-20% (depending on cell temperature and other...
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    Turbo Vado SL questions

    While I had no real issues with its ride, I added a Cane Creek suspension stem and seat post to my 4.0 SL EQ. While the ride is improved and I am using 38 mm tubeless tires on it, I felt the Skitch with its carbon frame and 47mm tires was much better. The Skitch was mostly quieter and...
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    Turbo Vado SL questions

    Same here. But while I wait for the Skitch to be restocked I'm gonna try to find some time to test ride a Creo 2. Been a few years since I've last owned a drop bar bike. I was so into riding the 4.0 Vado SL EQ that I neglected my Trek Domane and eventually traded that in. Absence makes the...
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    Turbo Vado SL questions

    I get what you're trying to say, but I would disagree. Depending on assist settings and rider power, the extra power of the 1.2 would be available at other than turbo settings. Just for illustration simplicity, assume the 1.1 is 300 W electrical power max and the 1.2 is 400 W max. Also for...
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    Turbo Vado SL questions

    Trek also has a couple of more budget friendly e-bikes that might suit your needs as well as possibly being a good intro to ebikes. As I recall, there was some discussion here when they first came out with a comment that the pedal assist did not kick in as smoothly as the Vado SL. But if you...
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    Turbo Vado SL questions

    Since you already have a road bike I'm not sure why you'd prefer the Vado SL vs a Creo -esp the updated Creos with the stronger 1.2 motor - you can always adjust assist levels downward if the Creo was more powerful than you need. Having said that, the Vado SL was my first ebike and I've been...
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    Axle Size

    When I wanted to go tubeless on my 4.0, the only off the shelf tubeless ready boost wheels were the ones from the 5.0. When I received those, the front hub was actually a 15 mm diam but provided with a 12 mm axle and a sleeve with a nominal 15 mm od. Makes sense from a parts/supply standpoint...
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    Creo 2 vs SC Skitch

    From descriptions of people who have done the swap on the Levo SL, I would only have to swap the motors. The TDU's stay with their original bikes. BTW, the kids levo is set up with a parental selection of 10 or 15 mph limit. At $2500, the kids levo would provide both the motor swap option and...
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    Creo 2 vs SC Skitch

    I'm also interested in the Skitch as well as comparisons between the SL1.1 and 1.2 motors. Currently I have a 4.0 SL with the 1.1 motor as well as a tero 5.0 with the 2.2 brose. I was able to test ride a Skitch flat bar for a couple hours doing about 25 miles and 2000 feet of climb. Unless...
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    Novice Clydesdale rider; big time wheel question regarding weight

    I think the most important aspect of the mfg weight limit would be warranty coverage. I can easily imagine a much lighter rider than you trashing those wheels under extreme conditions. At the other end, I wouldn't be surprised if a heavier rider has no issues on smooth pavements. The gotcha...
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    Battery/Motor efficiency/range question

    I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the difference is the tires. Vado has pathfinders, Tero X has ground controls. On my Tero (no x) the original Ground Controls range was around 20-40% less than the S-Works pathfinders that I replaced them with for awhile. Later I replaced the...
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    Two different Turbo Vado SL 5.0s?!

    My guess is that they will eventually introduce the 1.2 motor to the Vado SL line and want to clear inventory of the old models. OFC since they are still selling the earlier non-mastermind models they may just be clearing inventory ;). My bet is the 1.2 will come to the Vado SL as it has...
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    Tubeless tire experiences

    I went tubeless a little over 2 years ago on my 4.0 SL and about a year ago on my Tero. Combined I probably ride aroun 5-7k miles per year. On tubed bikes, I probably had to change a puncture flat approx 6 times a year. On tubeless I haven't had to do any road tire changes. I did have one...
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    Turbo Tero 5.0 needs new tires - Suggestions?

    I don't think so. Various websites will show rim/tire compatibility. Keep in mind that mfg spec for rims and tyres can vary as well. So if you are not sure, check with your LBS before you buy tires that are nominally outside the listed compatibility ranges. As far as the 42mm pathfinders and...
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    Turbo Tero 5.0 needs new tires - Suggestions?

    I've been running tubeless on my Tero 5.0. As long as the gravel/trail is not loose/sandy - I"ve really liked running S-works 42mm Pathfinders. They are about 400 g/per tire lighter than the stock Ground Controls. Roll extremely well on pavement which I also do. No buzzing either. For...
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    New Model Release Dates?

    Not everyone has a 2nd full power bike ;). And unless you never use sport or turbo settings on your SL you should understand there are times when more power is more better. If the SL is just a workout bike, why E-bike at all? Everyone's fitness level and ride profiles will differ, so in...
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    Wow-Prices are down on E-Bikes on Specialized site!

    I can use BLevo on my 2020 4.0 SL and dont' think I'd exchange it for mastermind either. My Tero 5.0 does have Mastermind and I don't miss Blevo Smart Control on it. Mostly because the higher available power means setting ECO at 20/60 support gives similar automatic transmission assist as...
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    Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)

    Really depends on your use case. There was a lot of continuous rainy days here this year. While I don't intentionally ride in the rain, there were plenty of in between times where the roads are still very wet and puddles abound. The dry techs do a fantastic job keeping the wet splatter to a...
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