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Anyone in the area planing to go? Had a great time in downtown LA the last time I went. I took the Metro train last time and will probably do that again. Lots of weird and unusual, much like a tame Burning man with pavement...

I'm going to bet that the only people who get a bike are those who purchased the extra $200 insurance that guarantees either a bike or a refund. The fact that they didn't limit the number of bikes at that price is a sign that they didn't plan very well. But we will see.

I have bought several things on Indiegogo and Kickstarter and had great new products for a great price. One was the unfortunately named "Soylant" which is a liquid food replacement. I'm very happy with it. The best thing there is for a quick meal. I throw a scoop in my bullet blender with...

I agree, you are far better off investing in a crowd funding operation instead of buying a lottery ticket because the chances are far better, if you pick right. I almost sent Sonders $500 when the price was $500 because I thought it was worth the risk. Now, I think I made the right decision...

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Agreed, but I see fat tired bikes all the time that stay on pavement exclusively. I have a friend who manages a Pedigo shop and have ridden everything they have, and the fat tired bike is torture (for me) to ride.

Something to do with human nature, maybe a territorial issue. Ever notice the guy who takes his sweet time leaving a parking space? That's what's going on there, it's his territory and he wants you to know it.

Joe Ah, finding that angle is the hard part.

Bikes and pedestrians share a beach boardwalk type path here and there are two things that amaze me. One is that people will walk down the exact center instead of to the right hand side, and when people cross this path in a group, they line up like the Beatles did on the Abby Road album cover...

We agree mostly, we will have to agree to disagree on Sonders critics need to be critical. Do a youtube search for the worst Kickstarter inventions. I'd post the link but I don't think they like that here.

JRA I had to look up eoney, can't find it, I'm in the dark. Its a fixie STYLE bike. Most fixies use the non fixed side of the hub. Ever ride a real fixie? One guy stopped me and wanted to trade bikes on the bike path. I didn't know his bike was on the fixed side, and I got on it at the top...

George You are right about everything you said, but, things are changing, the currency of the new economy is trust, look around at all the new stuff that requires a level of trust, Uber, Air BNB, and crowd funding is certainly part of it. Our level of trust follows us around as it never did...

Joe; I currently have four electric bikes and one old Mongoose Ascent mountain bike. The four electric bikes are: A folding bike with 26 x 1.95 mild mountain bike tires, 8-fun 350 watt hub motor, internal 36 volt, 10.2 amp battery, much the same motor and battery as the Sonder's bike, but 10...

A very telling thing Mr. Sonders said, "You don't have to pedal." Like he discovered something new. I suspect pedaling that single geared beast is an exercise in futility. The tone of his voice said a lot about his knowledge of electric bikes. Read an article yesterday about how trust is...

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What you want is called a motorcycle.

Any bike should have product liability insurance that was provided by the manufacturer, or you should be asked to sign a wavier. Pretty standard in the bike business. Be sure to ask. Crowd funding can be a great way to introduce a new product to the market and put products in the hands of...

I'd buy a good used Honda 500 V twin which is far better for speed than a bicycle, and goes even faster.

I ride 28 x 700C in some mild off road places, and it works pretty well. A bike should ride as well with the motor off as well as on, don't you think?

Thinner tires roll easier, get better range and are more fun to ride.