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You welcome, that's what these forums are all about. Ebikers helping each other and spreading knowledge.

Just looked at that thread. He said performance was nearly identical. But, Dewey which one performed better...?

Agreed, yes it is a fine motor. When you can get the upgrade that has better design and can take more wattage,better internal gears, and has the benefit of using Luna programming if you want...why not. Wasn't trying to say you were wrong, I just like to get the most bang for my bucks.

Yes, and try to go for the bafang bbshd(m615) or the Ultra(which will likely be out of the price range) over the bbs02. The bbs02 is known to overheat quicker, bc it doesn't cooling fans like bbshd. Also more programming options if you like that for bbshd. It is a more solid motor. Look at...

You said you would be going up very steep hills, I would look for a mid drive. Less likely to overheat on hills, give you full use of motor power with gears. I'm waiting on one of these now had a 750 watt hub. I spent $2221 got bike in camo with light front and back, rack, pannier bag, U lock...

Finally talked to service rep. No bigger battery, no discount for buying extra battery, bike has mechanical brakes, won't sell without battery, and they said normally lead time is 1-3 weeks(but said it's in stock...hmmmm?) but bc I'm on east coast prob be on the higher end so prob 3 weeks...

No, didn't think that was really an option. I will be asking that whenever customer service gets back to me. That would def make the dj mid drive option more attractive.

Talking with them now to see if I can get an extra battery for a good price? It looks like alot of aftermarket batteries might plug right in, not really sure how to find out except the hard way. Planned on getting extra batt anyway. The 15.6ah is not enough. I live in Atlanta metro area...

Haha ik ik, what do you think of the dj mid drive under 2k? I can do a few upgrades hate the look and size of batt. They don't offer other sizes. Seems like a generic configuration, I don't know if there's a bigger battery to fit this maybe at least 17ah

This seems comparable a little heavier. Don't like look of the battery. Havent heard much about them. https://dj-ebikes.com/products/dj-fat-bike-mid-drive?currency=USD&variant=33066451894326&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping

That revelation has me taking a 2nd and 3rd look at the Rize rx pro. But then again I see there schedule is also pushed back

Haha sad why list all that if you don't know what you're talking about. Why would eunorau put this review on their page, feels like false advertising. Where's the tax payer funded FTC(j/k) when you need them?Do you notice a big difference between your ultra and bbshd?

Thanks for the tip didn't even notice the motor was integrated with bbs02 may over heat in there as well. No wonder it looks smooth. Ashame looks don't equal function. They said they could have to me in 3 to 5 days...smh always something d@mn d@mn d@mn!

In the 2021 update i think they have a torque sensor (how this is possible with bbshd) idk according to electrified review. Maybe new models have torque sensor? https://www.electrifiedreviews.com/blog/eunorau-fat-hd-electric-bike-review-1000-watt-mid-drive-goes-the-distance

I know weird, watching a Bolton review of the bike now. Seems like a no go. It's a bbs02 though, they have the bbshd as well not in stock and about $300 more.

Found this as well. Emailing with rep now, scared to purchase though. They claim they have some warehouse in US and can have to me in about a week. Keep you posted. Take out bbs02 sell and put Luna bbshd in. https://accolmile.com/products/sea-lion-26-48v-750w-bbs02b-mid-motor-e-bike

Yeah you lucked up, for that price front suspension who? Found it for about 1999 with a few discounts at other stores...

Yes, luna is the real deal. If a motors goes bad def replacing with one of theirs. Found a bike with bbs02 Rambo for 1739, guess what no front suspension 10ah batt. Looks like I will be waiting. Surron is what made me look at an ebike in first place. Realized I needed something that could go...

I like your thinking Brian, new perspective. Searching now. Biktrix juggernaut in stock but $2700 would be perfect, if not so expensive. Basically same as bike I order but with old motor and no extras smh.