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You just entered a kobayashi maru scenario. Which is it? The LBS or the brand at fault for me? If it's truly the LBS, wouldn't I be better off with a trek and a superb LBS than a specialized and a bad one? If it's the brand/model, am I better off at this LBS or with trek and an at this time...

I am not sure. But, I am also not sure they have a choice unless specialized itself declines me as a customer. I have learned things about the specialized contract with LBS (generally) and it is pretty aggressively in favor of Specialized corporate especially on the topic of D2C orders and as...

With steel I get that from a fit perspective. My assumption is you would need to like the way steel rides for your specific bike type and surfaces. With a non-electric bike, I can give up some comfort as I simply won’t be able to get to the rougher roads without a motor. I just don’t know the...

Yep! Hadn’t put it together. The reynolds bike I tried was reynolds 853 (it was a niner). I was testing other things though. I did ride a breezer for that purpose, and I wasn't blown away by ride quality (not reynolds). Better than I expected for no suspension. And when I tried the surly, it...

Who's steel? There were custom stainless steel bikes at the shop today. I was drooling. I love stainless steel for so many reasons.

Sure. But the bike will likely be a trek or a few brands I haven’t researched yet.

Kinekt suspension seat post and stem helped. The stem was a problem due to fit. But I never got all those things on a bike and the fit right. I actually talked to another LBS today. They mostly do custom builds, so I am not sure I am reaching a price point I can live with. But, I would be...

Yeah, it’s not clear to me that carbon helps with the dirt/gravel/pothole roads. And, as you say, that could become a problem. But if it got rid of the hand numbness, it would be totally worth it. If I got the x 5, I wouldn’t upgrade the cassette. But I would on the x 4 (unless I suddenly found...

The bike shop just got a tero x 6 delivered to build for someone. Such an appealing bike.

Wouldn't you if the terrain changed from 3% 6% 9% 14% 5% 7% grade possibly several times over the course of a mile climb? ;) On the blade (rohloff), it got to the point that I preferred to change the power level than the gear. So I would leave it in a middle gear and adjust power instead. With 9...

This is a good clarification. How are you defining the % difference in gearing that is being made up? Just in the difference in min/max gear inches? so 26 vs 16 is % wise a pretty big jump. I really like my mid drive rohloff in everything *but* the power cut off. Having 1500 watts cut off from...

It’s 24h and 28h hubs. Which would mean a hub and possibly wheel change? The specs on the non carbon sirrus x 4.0 claim a 32h rim. I was also considering the X 4.0 and tinkering with different upgrades. (more so than the 5.0, because the 5.0 has the cassette range I want)

Ooo! You think my LBS can handle that? ;)

I am thinking about ordering the Sirrus X 5.0 and saying screw the weight limit ( I am hopefully < 10 lbs over currently and won't be adding anything to the bike. Not even the garmin most likely ). I can't find another relax ride flat bar gravel bike that competes with it across the board. The...

That is exactly what makes it so appealing.

@mschwett Gear range vs weight. I know what the calculations say to some extent. I also know that getting up my hill on a 26 gear inch bike (breezer radar X) needed some rest stops. The sirrus X 4.0 is also 26 gear inches. The priority pinions get down to 16 gear inches but weigh more (and will...

the tero x is listed as 58 lbs.

No idea. This bike gave me no reason to attempt a return. As a rule, I primarily return things for not working as described or designed. That bike is doing exactly what it should. I also very much enjoy it, but not in the same way I enjoy the specialized when working. That bike begs for me to go...

They are free to do that. The LBS may due to the nature of specialized contracts. Due to specialized delivering them a broken bike, they now get nothing for all the work they put in to build (and attempt to repair) two bikes. And, again, how is that fair of specialized when specialized almost...

Because it is no longer relevant. My returns were processing. The only reason to care would be to fix my problems.