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I helped build an ebike with a MAC geared hub and Grin/ASI Phaserunner. Had tons of control parameters. Still worked best under throttle (after auto optimization) in my opinion. We could tweak it's torque sensitivity for a rider, cadence bias it ,,,, yada yada .... throttle just was simply and...

Hey. I merely pointed out that the big brands are not giving anyone the choice to have a throttle and you don't even mention that FACT. You were endorsing the lack of choice on the big brands in my opinion. Not once have I said that PAS should not be provided as an option for those riders that...

I have two high end Haibikes - one with a Bosch drive system and one with Yamaha. I like PAS but there were times I would look at the assist level and go why am I not getting full assist up this hill as my speed decreased. The programs can only be predictive. It does know how heavy or how strong...

Wow...you must work in marketing. Fluffy words. I'm just talking about how efficient ebikes are compared to cars. I understand that people will make the decision but legislation should not neuter ebikes such tthat they don't reach their full potential. 250W/15mph in EU is a joke and not...

ebikes can provide as much exercise as an anolog bike but when time is money most will opt to increase their average speeds a bit via the assist.

Even the most brazen climate deniers are starting to realize that maybe we humans can't just continue down the same path of getting into 6,000 lb vehicles to go 2-20 miles for most trips from home. Ebikes are truly the most efficient way for humans to go from A-to-B ever so they should be...

I do not understand the argument that you can not get a workout on a throttle-assist ebike. Over and Over and Over again it seems most people perceive that the presence of a throttle implies there is no pedaling. A throttle in no way prevents getting good exercise levels. As for ebike being a...

I just think feeding sensor parameters into a microprocessor-based controller with programming algorithms will fall short of providing the assist needed/wanted for all riders in all situations. I understand the programmer mindset of "good enough" on something like this. Sure there is the one...

I'm just advocating simplicity for urban mobility. I understand technical crawling up a 10% incline mtn trail at 3-5mph is best served via a torque-based PAS but I think the merits of PAS really goes down for urban mobility. When I'm commuting something like 75% of my time may be on straight...

My ideal drive system is a hall-less in-runner motor driving the rear wheel as a dual drive like the XD. Bike totally sensorless and no programs trying to out-think me. Just give me a throttle. I'll pedal the bike to a few kph/mph so the controller can detect back emf for commutation when I...

Given the gear reduction on the motor drive (6:1 at the motor and 10:1 via chain drive) it will perform as good or likely better than most other mid-drives and be as or more efficient. While no motor has great efficiency at really slow speeds they have their most torque which riders tend to like...

You are simply wrong. You seem to just equate a throttle as being exclusively on a DD hub motor ebike. Sure gear reduced mid-drives can climb well using the human optimized drive train but a dual drive system allows both to be optimized and to ignore that is just technically wrong. Sorry. You...

I still say there in lies the problem / challenge with PAS. The programmers can only assess the parameters that are collected by the sensors (which now can include torque, cadence, speed, gear, heart rate, slope/incline. I could see programmer egos adding rider weight, wind sensing, tire...

I wanted to mention that having both throttle and PAS add-on later satisfies the interest of all/most riders. I'm just a supporter of the simple assist control that a throttle provides (sensors and programming just adds complexity that will likely reduce reliability). For technical mtn biking...

If the torque produced at stall for both was close and the performance curve vs speed was similar you would likely not be able to tell the apart performance wise. I some riding conditions you may feel the weight of a hub motor in the rear (a legit advantage of a mid drive is the weight...

Here is what happens. There are simply some people that do not like bike or ebikes anywhere people are walking. These people gave up on complaining about bikes on MUPs but ebikes gave them a new opportunity to start their Karen whining and complaining. The city will get tons of complaints (many...

The federal HR727 LSEB definition limits power above 20mph which is exactly how speed is limited on traditional bikes. The idea of an "assist limit cut-off speed" is not an actual ebike speed limit so the far better way to limit speed is to limit the power that can be provided above 20mph to...

Given that the 3-class legislation lacks a clear prevention of have a mode switch I see no reason it can't be a viable class 1/2/3 multimode ebike. Not like the goofy stickers are ever going to work for enforcement. Just put all of them on your ebike if you have multimode. I'm sure everyone can...

Pretty much all 250W Class 3 / S-pedelec ebikes do assist to 28mph but it takes significant rider effort to sustain that speed. Worst yet, if going up anything more than a 2% incline no average rider will maintain anything over 20mph on a 250W ebike. There is lies the issue with EU 250W...