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    Preference ?? - Would you prefer a "quiet click-less" freewheel?

    I'm just wanting some feedback from ebike riders if they would prefer a rear IGH / derailleur to have a silent free wheel or one that clicks as is standard in the industry.
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    Why Class 3 is such bad legislation...

    One of the reasons why ebikes could become a popular transportation solution is because they can supplement a car without having additional license and registration costs. That is very very important because if they don't save someone money overall people will just continue to get in their...
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    Are 750 watt ebikes actually legal?

    Lawyers have no clue about anything technical like this but you are correct that this could be an issue in an injury trial which is why riders should understand what a motor rating is vs a drive system peak power.
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    Are 750 watt ebikes actually legal?

    You are technically correct but few people understand "less than." In reality the ebikes rated at 750W could be reported to the CPSC as non-compliant. Someone wanting to cause some problems for these companies will eventually do that so they should just change their rating to 749.99W to be...
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    Why Class 3 is such bad legislation...

    You have to keep in mind that the 20mph limit via motor alone came from NHTSA. They were not going to release the regulatory purview of ebikes if they could go faster than 20mph motor alone. Dr. Currie didn't want an assist limit set at 20mph so he set constraints for power (170lbs, level...
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    Why Class 3 is such bad legislation...

    Never wrote that. I said that the assist to sustain 20mph can continue past 20mph even on a throttle bike so long as the additional speed is achieved by the rider adding power. This is not complicated by everyone wants to make it that way. Why is a 28mph speed pedelec compliant per HR727...
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    Why Class 3 is such bad legislation...

    HR727 passed one vote short of congressional consensus. Spare me that it's my own want. In Colorado only 4 state representives were involved with passing 3-class and one of them admitted to me it was 100% done to get Haibike to move their sales head quarters to Denver. No citizens were asked...
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    Why Class 3 is such bad legislation...

    Neither of these have I ever said yet you literally put the statements in quotes. Very trollesh. I have said that if a compliant LSEB is defined and USE regulated as a bike the regulation are much easier to understand and actually enforce. I do prefer HR727 over the 3-class system and I do...
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    Why Class 3 is such bad legislation...

    The reason why some view trail access as difficult is because local trail managers have never really educated themselves about ebikes. They view an ebike with a throttle as the same as a motorcycle. It would be simple to design a peddle assist ebike that provided full power from the start as a...
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    Why Class 3 is such bad legislation...

    The motor power definitions are the same and are a "rating" not a peak power limit...few seem to understand motor power ratings and it's a subject all it's own. The is not throttle cut-off stated in HR727 so you must not understand or have read HR727. The power can continue so long as limited...
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    Why Class 3 is such bad legislation...

    I take the high road and you the low....
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    Why Class 3 is such bad legislation...

    I've never said it like that at all. I've explained why I feel HR727 is a better regulation definition (keep in mind it was pretty much in place in all 50 states for 12+ years). You seem to think 3-class is better because it's easier for politicians to understand an assist speed cut-off than...
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    Why Class 3 is such bad legislation...

    A note: I think if you care about an idea or position you should be willing to engage and even challenge it yourself continuously. Obviously I have put my opinion on the 3-class legislation out there and I think it's not just bad but was created with negative intent on the adoption of ebikes for...
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    Why Class 3 is such bad legislation...

    Yea. An bikes have been present for well over a century and states have long standing traffic laws that apply to the USE of bikes (these USE laws also apply to ebikes regardless of the power level but they still have to be compliant to HR727 to be sold in the US). Lots of people imply that...
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    Why Class 3 is such bad legislation...

    Ok. Without HR727 pulling the regulation purview of ebikes from the NHTSA there could be no 3-class legislation and yet some seem to the 3 definitions to supersede the definition in HR727. Simply put it is far more important than the 3-class system promoted by People for Bikes (I'm not anti PFB...
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    Why Class 3 is such bad legislation...

    JR has made HR727 out to be only intended to help Dr. Currie's ebike business but he doesn't seem to want to comment on the intent of the largest car parts producer putting lobby money to get class systems passed in Europe and the US. If not for HR727 we would likely have the same 15mph assist...
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    Why Class 3 is such bad legislation...

    One of the reasons I said he had a late life epiphany was because of his defense industry background (not exactly an industry known for altruistic en-devours). He certainly used his political capital to pull ebikes away from the NHTSA by a nearly unanimous congressional vote. Certainly it...
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    Why Class 3 is such bad legislation...

    Did you see the question mark at the end of my sentence????? I do not think that HR727 only benefited his company because it allowed ebikes to not be considered motor vehicles regulated by the NHTSA (I highlighted some of the requirements that were removed).
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    Why Class 3 is such bad legislation...

    Does it determine pedaling or just wheel rotation? You mentioned it on quick starts but then neither is happening from a stop so maybe clarify.
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    Why Class 3 is such bad legislation...

    While the weight is not a significant factor on level ground it is a constraint that does have an impact. In 2002, 170lbs seems to have been the average adult weight but we in the US keep getting fatter so maybe it should have been future looking. I think something else that just amazes me is...
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