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I was reading an article the other day and it started that carrying stuff in backpacks and pockets makes it easier for climbing than loading up the bike and having to power the extra bike weight, apologies if this seems obvious but I had never thought about it before.

I used Race Face with new chainring bolts, no need to take pedal or crank off as it fits over

I went from 46t to 38t on my Creo it was a simple swap with no issues other than shortening the chain, It made a hell of a difference tackling the hills around the Peak District.

My Creo 1 has flat bars and 42 tyres ( possibly take 45s) with a 38t chainring and while I would like the Creo 2 motor for the extra climbing power I can't really justify It. ( I look on with envy).

Same as the SL1.1 Motors walk mode which I discovered was available when I did a flat bar conversion and fitted a Vado controller.

Emperors new clothes maybe?

Apologies answered twice.

Bike rides great on gravel and light trails, It is a bit twitchy on high speed road descending, One difference it has made is to stop me chasing every bike in the distance because I think I'm Mark Cavendish.

On gravel and light trails it handles fine, at high speed road descending it is slightly twitchy, One difference having flat bars has done is stop me chasing every bike in the distance because I think I'm Mark Cavendish.

I did this conversion last year after being in hospital with a bad back, Took a while to sort out compatible parts but worth it in the end. Managed to keep original grx calipers and changed levers to Deore XT. Also added Vado assist button controller on the flat bars.

So glad I saw this its been puzzling me for ages.

I use my Carbon Creo off road (nothing too strenuous I may add) as above have 42mm tyres fitted, also I have done a flat bar conversion which has made it into a very capable tool.

Does anyone have the part numbers for the brake pads please.

I stand corrected Pennyfathing the firmware numbers for my Creo are the same as yours, so presumably the motor numbers are the only ones that are region specific.

These are the same as my European spec Creo as verified by dealer 2 weeks ago.

14.5 mph but I do descend pretty fast (the best part of climbing is the coming down)

Yes 95% road where I can keep above the 15.5mph cut off on the flats and obviously the down hills, uphill quite long stretches ie 5mls averaging about 6% and sometimes short stretches of up to 12%, Age 64, heart attack 2 years ago and 4 stents fitted.

Settings at Eco 35% not sure of rest as I never use them.

In eco mode 65 miles, 3000ft climbing, 140lbs and 50% battery left with steepest gradient 12% on a 15mph restricted European Creo.