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  1. Credible Hulk

    The Sondors Bike is Unravelling a Bit

    Re "why don't people sue?" A few reasons: - they get bamboozled by disclaimers. They think a disclaimer that denies liability is legal. They don't realize that any monkey with a keyboard can write an intimidating-looking pile of legal-sounding crap. They think that once they sign something, it's...
  2. Credible Hulk

    The Sondors Bike is Unravelling a Bit

    Re the liability: I took screenshots of the original wording for the shipping costs, along with the IGG disclaimers, and showed them to a lawyer who specializes in class actions and civil litigation. IGG/Sondors were stupid to use the word "guarantee". That's what makes them liable in court if...
  3. Credible Hulk

    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    And then there's the shipping cost for the batteries. Are they actually going to ship the battery in the same box with the ebike? Then there are those of us who perked a second battery - not one peep so far about shipping cost for that.
  4. Credible Hulk

    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    I guess the rumour about Hopp hopping was true? First thing I noticed - they just lifted everything from IGG and pasted it into this website. Nothing has been edited, so there are plenty of references to "when the campaign is over". Hopefully they'll do some editing and (wishful thinking) update...
  5. Credible Hulk

    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Just a tip: That screenshot comes from a third party website. I strongly urge anyone who wants to calculate their tax and duty to go directly to their government's customs website. Duty calculators don't take customs laws into account. For example, I found out on the Canadian customs site that...
  6. Credible Hulk

    Refund questions

    Yes, you and your Agency 2.0 colleagues have amply demonstrated your love for the Straw Man in your posts here. It's been quite amusing to be accused of logical fallacies, faking my identity here, and using writing styles [multiple paragraphs? bullet points? Oh, the humanity!] which you and your...
  7. Credible Hulk

    Refund questions

    Thanks for the patronizing lectures "Crowdfunding campaigns 101", from both you and your colleague. Believe it or not, I am familiar with the concept, having backed other campaigns previously. Your suggestion that I should never invest in a crowd funding project again based on being ripped off...
  8. Credible Hulk

    Refund questions

    $500 may be chump change not worth "bellyaching" about, to you - it isn't to others. And you forgot to add the $250 that non-US buyers are being charged for shipping, despite the fact that ALL of these ebikes are coming from China, not the US. And before you slam me and others for paying the...
  9. Credible Hulk

    Refund questions

    Sadly, I had no fears and was enjoying the anticipation of receiving my first ebike - so much that I chose to overlook all the discrepancies about specs, colour choices, generic manufacturing photos. But I've worked in factories and my first thought about the photos was "most factories aren't...
  10. Credible Hulk

    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    I backed two other campaigns, one on Kickstarter for Pebble Time, the other on IGG for a robotic surveillance cam from a company called Amaryllo International. The differences I've noticed: - far more frequent updates - Company reps constantly present on comments boards - quick and effective...
  11. Credible Hulk

    Refund questions

    Thanks for the information and the insight. I don't think I'll be calling long distance to the US from Canada on my cell phone, I've thrown enough money at this pack of jackals already. I don't trust them to actually give me my money back anyway. What I expect is to end up with no money and no...
  12. Credible Hulk

    Refund questions

    There have been so many questions and concerns about the Storm/Sondors ebike campaign that I'm sure I'm not the only one who's considering a refund. I haven't decided yet, I'd like to ask a few questions first. I understand the procedure is to email them directly to request a refund. On the...
  13. Credible Hulk

    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Yet they're arm-twisting their backers into handing over shipping fees NOW for items that aren't even built yet... to get them shipped "on time"? Reminds me of a certain Steve Miller song.
  14. Credible Hulk

    Ivars wouldn't like me when I"m angry...

    Ivars wouldn't like me when I"m angry...
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