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  1. Holland-Tim-Allant+8S

    Vado SL 5.0 -- It's Here!

    dear old Fred!!! what a guy for bikers. local company, local causes supported. if he was still around i'd thank him. i do patronize his stores, though. it's great to hear of the expansion plans you described. we are so glad to live hear not maryland/dc ... tim
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    Vado SL 5.0 -- It's Here!

    no. probably my single biggest dislike on my Treks is the Cobi Smart Phone Hub. just garbage, imho. no way i'm putting my $800 iphone on that cheap cradle to bounce into smithereens. Cobi is cute but garbage. if you have two bikes, it only recognizes the first one. so i can't connect it on my...
  3. Holland-Tim-Allant+8S

    Vado SL 5.0 -- It's Here!

    maybe battery replacement is a reason to consider Trek? although they have some 2 x's power non-bosch ebikes (similar to Spec.), Trek uses the same RIB batteries on their full power road, urban, and mountain bikes in 500 Wh and 625 Wh. these are interchangeable among all the different frames and...
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    Vado SL 5.0 -- It's Here!

    yes, Holland, Michigan. north side of Lake Macatawa, about 3/4 mile from Lake Michigan. wide paved bike paths everywhere. you can go 20 miles north to Grand Haven the whole way on dedicated bike paths. or south to Saugatuk about 15 miles same thing. Or 25 miles east to Grand Rapids. it is really...
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    Vado SL 5.0 -- It's Here!

    rock, if you don't mind, i want to clarify. i was speaking about the core technology: battery, power, interface, control logic, etc. i wasn't referring to fundamentally different classes of bikes like the SL, which have their fans but overall most buyers are still picking full power by a large...
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    Vado SL 5.0 -- It's Here!

    The good thing about buying a top ebike today is that they are so developed that there is little risk of obsolescence
  7. Holland-Tim-Allant+8S

    Vado SL 5.0 -- It's Here!

    Cam, I’ve already put in my opinion. I will add that when i tested Vado SL to full power Vado, I remember commenting to the salesperson, “If I was twenty years younger I would get the SL.” I was 53 at that time. Tim
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    New Vado 5.0 IGH in stock? My LBS's say go for it, they can't get 'em

    You get to be our window into the future of ebike drivetrains. Looking forward to the reports. Congratulations. It’s only money and the government prints more of it every day. With inflation we can argue this actually an investment! Tim
  9. Holland-Tim-Allant+8S

    Vado SL 5.0 -- It's Here!

    I have been “shocked” by the improvement in tidexand comfort provided by the Redshift Shockstop seat post suspension on our Allants. For the small-ish bumps on paved trails and sidewalks it does a decent job tricking you into believing there is a real suspension under there. So the point about...
  10. Holland-Tim-Allant+8S

    Vado SL 5.0 -- It's Here!

    Turbo Levo SL light
  11. Holland-Tim-Allant+8S

    Vado SL 5.0 -- It's Here!

    Yes, indeed. You have already written the definitive book on SL vs. full power Vados in another thread. It’s probably worth reading for anyone considering both. If you are going to have more than one ebike, an SL is great. Imho, it’s a second option for the average rider because it’s nit as...
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    Vado SL 5.0 -- It's Here!

    Cam, My 2 cents, after test riding the Vado SL (2x’s power) back to back with the regular Vado (4x’s power) it was an absolute no brainer to go 4x’s. Why? Headwind! A stiff one just knocked the SL back into feeling like an analog bike Whereas the 4x’s cut through like butter. It also rode much...
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    Considering upgrading my Allant+ 8s to a Specialized Vado 5.0 IGH

    yes, so to contradict myself, (amend the record haha) WITH the upright handlebar, better seat, and most important suspension seat post, the comfort level of our Allant+8S is fantastic. Como would be more comfortable only due to the slightly more upright seating position (less weight on...
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    New Vado 5.0 IGH in stock? My LBS's say go for it, they can't get 'em

    i don't like seeing the manufacturer's buying up all the local bike shops. but there are advantages. for example, the long time Trek store in northwest Indiana was purchased from the retiring owner in 2020. the first thing Trek did was give all the employees a big raise. why? because they don't...
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    Considering upgrading my Allant+ 8s to a Specialized Vado 5.0 IGH

    if i were going to consider switching out my Allant+8S i would go one of two ways: 1) more comfort - Specialized Como 5.0 (the all new 2022 model), 2) more versatile - Trek Powerfly 9 EQ (bought it for the trail rides so I can understand wanting more than the Allant+8S delivers.) but ... i will...
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    Which commuter ebike? Specialized 2022 Como/Vado 5.0 vs 2022 Trek Allant+ 7S

    Congratulations!!! That is a beautiful bike. I think Spesh hit it out of the park with this new model Como. I think it's absolutely perfect. Black like a Mercedes S Class. I have the Trek Allant+8S, (captain obvious ...) and love it but we had to make a couple of changes including replacing the...
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    XM 700+ Trek 10,000+ mile report

    For what it’s worth, I just installed the Redshift Shockstop seat post on my Trek Allant+8S and wow!!! Transformational improvement to the ride. Since the seating position is almost upright the road shocks mostly take effect on your butt. Better than expected or even hoped. Really nice on a...
  18. Holland-Tim-Allant+8S

    Hydra v Trek Rail v Levo

    EMTB is wonderful, imho. i have used it on my Powerfly 9 on my local trails and find it fantastic because it greatly reduces both shifting and power level adjustments. it almost eliminates them entirely. this makes it a more enjoyable ride for me so i can keep up a good pace regardless of the...
  19. Holland-Tim-Allant+8S

    Trek Rail 5 (2021) thoughts

    i tried to PM Dallant in late december. no reply. we all hope he is all right ... tim
  20. Holland-Tim-Allant+8S

    Allant+7 thoughts/review

    Good information. It is a quality tire but definitely optimized for pavement. Thanks Tim
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