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Actually, the first sentence is fact. The rest is my opinion.

Neither one of your examples represent 40% off and one is a demo, and the other is know to be discontinued shortly. Most importantly, I don't see any benefit in commenting on how big a discount anybody may have received on a new bike. Its like discussing how much you are paid with a...

I think OP just wanted to get a response from people- and he did. I don’t recall ever seeing in 40% discounts on ebikes online, unless they were last years models. In fact I bought two Stromers from a Utah dealer discounting them and discontinuing the brand at 20% off a couple years ago. Simply...

There will mostly be a confused market with you suggesting 40% off for a new bike, makes the ones buying at retail or those trying to sell at retail feel good, huh. Ebike economist or do gooder? No offense.

Save to say the spark is no more than a spark in BRP fire of gross income. Without checking, Europeans(where all the innovation is coming from) are income taxed at 50% + or -, and rumored to take month long summer vacations. Still, thank god thier into ebikes- cause I am too. And, even more of a...

Even with my bell, I've yet to have a pedestrian thank me for honking at them.

Oh no, stromer is jumping on 27.5 wagon? The most exciting thing on st5 is no more irritating COGGING. Just wonder how complex that perk is. Hope it doesn't affect reliability.

Bombardier makes big jets, little jets, snowmobiles, motorcycles, jet skis, etc. That puts the spark about equivalent to Haibike selling valve stem caps. Haibike could compete with anybody on valve stem caps.

Try riding that rinky dink spark down the road with minimal pedal effort. Or, better yet, start making ebikes. or, a full size REAL sea doo cost more than any ebike made, a lot more. or, who would buy a cheesy spark when a far superior stx15f only cost a few bucks more. or, on a ebike you're...

It’s like the old brokerage ad: “when blue cat posts, people listen”!

After selling my st2 6months ago and only riding my trusty st1- I stepped up for speed. Everything is as promised, but tomorrow it’s getting new forks, bars- stretching up and forward, my old sus. Seatpost and brooks seat, old pedals, new Busch big mirror and it will be just right. Came with a...

I think its a rack time. Form and function are hand and glove with it. Everything you can think of snaps securely on it. Any regular old school rack seems wide and secure- until you try bungeeing stuff to it. Racktime is the best thing to come out of Europe………………………………………….maybe ever!

added to my classified post!

Unlike the precise term "winter riding". I'm going to tell you why I think buying the best, owning the best, reselling the best............. I went thru a series of boats in my younger days and they got big enough to go offshore fishing. My first island capable boat was a 24' thunderbird...

Those 3 things = nothing but trouble? After 10,000 happy miles on st1? Once headset was tighten, YOU can't even see the couple of leds, and noisy brakes are almost inherent in disc. Brakes. You must have had a care-free life if those 3 things are "nothing but trouble". I would have fixed 2 of...

How the f*ck would I know, where do you live? Actually I don't care. And, as you know - I was giving sane advice about buying the best. You wanna snow bike? Buy the best

Ki its a bit more complex than rich hipster bike. When your at 28mph inches from cars buzzing along- it's comforting to be on the best. And, buy the best, own the best, and resell the best. I proved tat to myself for about 30 years on all kinds of stuff.

My point was missed. All good at the trade show in Europe, but across the pond, there are hundreds of millions potential sales- some reading this thread of dissatisfaction and lack of support. Weird

Honestly, because I've convinced myself I don't like them. Starting 3 years ago when I test rode a haibike in Santa Barbara- my favorite pair of pants got torn a bit on front sprocket chain, then had a traffic light turn on me at exact wrong moment, not knowing it would hardly budge in high...