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Thanks for the detailed response. I live in the US. I emailed NCM on Monday with questions and have yet to hear back. I will probably make the purchase and cross my fingers. I too will file with credit card if I have issues.

That is my debate. I can get the Milano for $1`299 till Jan 2 or I can get the Cafe Cruiser for $1595. Why these two bikes? I want to tour and want a step through without experiencing too much frame flex. The two down tubes makes it stiffer than a single tube on most of the step through's I...

Thanks Fred!

I found somewhere is 60 nm of torque. Not just need to know how many teeth on the chain ring. I believe it is the same as a Moscow which most people here tend to own. Thanks

Does anyone know how much torque the Dat-Kit 500w motor had? How many teeth on the chain ring? And can it be set to go 28 mph? Thinking of buying the Plus while they are on sale. Thanks, Jeff

Thanks! That is interesting.

Settings on my display won't go past 25 mph. I also have the controller set at like 11.2 amps or so and not sure how that affects the settings.

I hope I am not complicating the issue but you might also consider the Ride1Up 700 ST. In the same price range and it might meet the compromises you are looking for. As of right now they are shipping August 10.

This one is currently out of stock but it lists other models that have brake sensors if you scroll down. https://www.amazon.com/BOHSRL-Sensor-Rechargeable-Bicycle-Waterproof/dp/B07RKZZH17

I saw a rear light advertised that can sense braking, I think it was on FB.

My readings bounce around some but generally there is a trend. I rode 12.4 miles yesterday and battery still shows 100%. I'll do the same today and it will lower fairly quickly and again the battery percent will fluctuate with a downward trend. I assumed this was normal but apparently it is not.

Oh the controller connections are all together just below the battery. You have to unscrew just two screws to get to it. No fishing of wires but you will have to cram them in a bit when putting it back together.

Well the new and old controllers were slightly different but not enough to be a problem. There are a lot of wires and it is important you attach them correctly. Everything is a quick connect so no soldering. The red, blue, and yellow wires on the controller connect to the same colored wires on...

I followed that thread and there doesn't seem to be a simple solution. I'll continue monitor this thread but until then the center kickstand works OK.

My 700XR arrived a week ago and the motor didn't work. They shipped me a new controller and it arrived today. The video they suggested wasn't enough to allow me to connect the new controller so am waiting on a reply from them for some help. They have been fast to respond so I am not too worried...

My Ride 1 Up 700XR received a week ago doesn't work. Today I received a new controller from them and am seeking their help with installing since wire colors have apparently changed since the old one was made. It has been an inconvenience for sure but to me it was worth saving the extra $500 to...

No I don't own a Juiced. I think it is a great bike with few more extras than my Ride 1 Up 700XR I just ordered. But the price of the Juiced was a bit above my target and I would have to add fenders and rack costing even more.

Look at the Juiced CrossCurrent S2.

Congrats Neek, enjoy! I went with the R1U 700.

I have researched so much I can't remember where I saw the negatives because the bike has about everything I want. It seemed to me the negatives may have been on reddit. Maybe the problems have been addressed so don't take my word for it.