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Bob, the visit to Deland Cyclery wasn't very productive and I'd love to take you up on your offer. Might a small slice of time be available on your sked this Saturday? I think I can work out a visit next week, as well. Perhaps a chat by phone would be best; I realize Sat. is Easter Weekend...

Thanks, Doug. That's quite the handsome machine!

I'm going to be facing a different - but in a safety sense, similar - circumstance on single lane county roads with little paved shoulder and high speed cars, Douglas. Multiple strong rear lights seems worthwhile, and I like the redundancy. What do you think of those 'blinkers', which I think...

Interesting resource - thanks, JT. More there than just rolling resistance...

"...then hosed the bike off........ vigorously..." I'd be willing to loan you my pressure washer...<g>

@Crazy Lenny Ebikes, thanks for sharing the pics...and especially the response re: hill climbing ability of the CC. That was perhaps my biggest Q about the CC, given Tora's description of how he's modified the geared hub motor. We do appreciate you and the other vendors being here.

Can one of our CC 'test pilots' confirm which mounting points their pre-production CC has for fenders, front & rear, and rear rack? I hate to '@' Tora and bug him. Things must be pretty frenetic for him right now. @Crazy Lenny Ebikes? @Chandlee EBS? @Anyone?!

@MLB, thanks. Just the kind of detailed perspective I was looking for. I posted a somewhat similar Q to Court below his most recent Misceo review and he said something very similar (WRT the Misceo) altho' he put it in the context of which road surfaces on which it was comfortably capable of...

Court's review of the updated, lower priced 2016 Misceo iE was just recently posted. It seems to meet most of my requirements with two exceptions, and I'm especially impressed that all this capability can be found in a 43# bike. One of my two reservations has to do with the lack of a front...

To return for a moment to the OP's Q: "Any thoughts on which to choose: a close out price on a 2015 Dash, with 500w gearless hub motor and 8.7 ah battery vs 2016 CrossCurrent, with 350w geared hub motor and 10.4 ah battery, for about the same price?" One of my first thoughts, which I don't...

Very impressive. Thanks for offering the clear close-up pics.

Bob, thanks so much for the offer! Very kind of you. I've got to get a prop balanced over at Deland Airport on Tuesday and I'm hoping to visit Deland Cyclery, where they have a mix of ebikes. If that doesn't work out, I'd very much appreciate accepting your offer. I'll be back to you. Jack

Thanks for that, Bob. "No" on currently owning an ebike. We'll be moving to Bozeman MT in two weeks so I've been beefing up my understanding of ebikes and their relative characteristics here, in prep for a purchase "there" (which most likely will mean on-line). Not much real ebike presence in...

Bob, which - if any - LBS have you frequented in NE Florida? I'm in Jax and hope to be visiting Deland Cyclery next week...but mostly, I've found LBS here might advertise ebikes (to snag the occasional sale) but don't stock them. And congrats on your ST2!

Clever. For those who want to see it used, you'll find the very short youtube video here. Jack

@Fig pics and a report most appreciated! Jack

A 'stop' on the seat post, underneath the bottle, would solve that problem.

As some of you know, I'm an ebike novice and using this Community site to build knowledge before purchasing an ebike for use in a small Montana city an hour north of Yellowstone. But one fundamental aspect of ebike performance crosses over into my flying avocation and that's battery efficiency...

Pete, where are you located? Looks pretty! Jack

I would support the proposal George outlined. But I think we may miss part of its value if we think about its enforcement in traditional terms, meaning police enforcement. My impression, from quite a bit of travel around the USA the last few years, is that the traditional traffic enforcement...