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    Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)

    Here’s a way you can see both rider power and motor power in an analysis after you finish a ride: Use Mission Control for your ride. You can just run it with your phone in your pocket, or on your bike if you want to see the data during the ride (I just keep it in my pocket). Now download the...
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    Torque settings for through axles, Turbo Vado 4 SL?

    I had a Vado sl that took a 6mm Allen, not a torx. I kept a long Allen in by saddle bag with a tube and patch kit. My Creo has, as Kahn said, a lever arm in the bolt head. It’s about the same length as my Allen key for the VSL was and I’m careful to get it “tight but not too tight”. So far, so...
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    My 1st 50 miles on the new Como 5.0

    Interesting article. I’ve noticed that the current premier bike fitters debunk the older fit rules, giving long, very technical rational for their new and improved rules. Saddle height got lower, KOPS (for set back) is looked down on, and crank arm length is getting shorter. That would lessen...
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    New Turbo Creo - First Impressions

    Yes, I studied the two frames using this site. It was very helpful for me to see what my reach and bar height would be on a creo vs a Vado sl. The VSL has a longer reach, but once you factor the hand position in, the creo is a little longer reach. One word of caution - several months ago I...
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    New Turbo Creo - First Impressions

    Like saratogadave, I had my lbs ($85) pack up my Vado sl and send it off to Pro’s Closet, who had emailed me a fedex shipping label. I knew my shop would pack it up securely and thought it wouldn’t be worth the hassle for me to do that myself. I had the agreed upon amount in my PayPal account...
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    New Turbo Creo - First Impressions

    I went from a Vado sl to a creo comp carbon and for me it was a big step up in performance, though probably some of the step up is mental. I only ride on the road so I don’t know if your gravel rides would feel faster on a creo. I know you changed your VSL bar height and use the inner bar ends...
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    Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)

    No, my observations are based on actual data from Blevo. On my Creo, turbo acts much differently that eco or sport. I can send you my Blevo csv file if you would like to see it. It shows that at the same rider input I get an extra 100 watts in turbo as compared to eco, even though both are set...
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    Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)

    Yeah, I wondered that too. And I wonder if the Creo is tuned differently than the Vado sl. I know the firmware version numbers are the same so I assumed they worked the same. In turbo, even at 25/100, it wants to give me 300 watts with almost any pedal input. Since I rarely use turbo, that...
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    Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)

    I know that. At 35/35 I expect to see it peak out at just over 100 watts and that would happen with about 140 rider watts. I get about 40 watts. At 200 rider watts I get about 70 watts. I understand the algorithm to be 1.8 X rider power, up to the max. Setting, which at 35rider, 35 max power...
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    Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)

    I have been corresponding with Spec Rider Care about my power delivery on my Creo. It feels perfect and I like the amount of assist I get in the stock setting, but I noticed that I was getting a lot less motor power under the same conditions that I did on my Vado SL. The VSL did roughly follow...
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    Motor noise comparison video

    I’ve seen several threads, observations and opinions here about the Creo motor noise. I’m not sure if this video has been posted before but it compares popular ebike motors, including the specialized 1.1 (Creo and Vado sl). My personal experience is with a Vado SL that I had for 7 months, and...
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    Turbo Creo handlebar height

    I agree with Mschwett: the tall “duckbill” that the creo future shock comes with gives 15mm more height than the short one that other bikes can use. You can then add 15 mm in spacers, then flip the stem to give 36mm more height and 11mm less reach than the stock setup. A 17 deg stem (all stems...
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    Coin Battery

    You might be right. It could function like the CMOS battery backup on a PC motherboard and store any user settings other than the default, like a custom assist level. When the PC coin cells died, windows would ask for the time and date every time you booted up. The other BIOS settings it backed...
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    Creo Rattle

    I think I saw another creo rattle fix thread somewhere that used the same solution as mine. I’ll add mine here to help others looking for a fix. My carbon comp creo started making an annoying rattle on bumps that sounded like it was coming from the front of the bike. On a ride, I tried holding...
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    Coin Battery

    I’m curious about the TCU battery too. Any updates or information about the purpose of the battery? It seems logical that it could be to store changes to the default rider settings, but logic doesn’t always dictate how things work.
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    Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)

    I’ll add one to the list: garmin edge 130 plus. It’s garmin’s cheapest unit and mine works very well with my Creo. I paired it with the power and cadence sensors on the bike, then with my Varia radar-rear light. It displays rider power, cadence and all the basic speed and time units. Adding the...
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    [Resolved] BEWARE - SPECIALIZED Full Return Policy not as advertised

    Months ago I read several versions of the specialized return policy and understand that returned items have to be unused and in their original packaging to qualify for a refund, and the refund doesn’t apply to bikes. I think bikes can be returned but only for store credit. Since the O.P’s bike...
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    Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)

    I agree - My Vado SL 4.0 with the 10 speed clunked loudly when I shifted to a smaller sprocket. I tried to slow my cadence way down or even stop pedaling for a split second before shifting. Riding with assist off, it was a much quieter shift. My creo, with an 11 speed, has a noticeable but much...
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    Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)

    I get what you’re questioning. That’s how the cleaner is designed and it seems to work on my Creo. Maybe the derailleur spring tension and the clutch take care of things. I’ll pay closer attention next time I use it, but so far, so good.
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    Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)

    The park tool cleaner (the newer model) lets you put the handle on either side, designed for mid motor ebikes. You can forward pedal through it and have the chain exit past the sponge and go through the brushes the same direction as it would move with the handle reversed and back pedaling. I’ve...
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