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Sure, but those concerns (bike being heavier, more complex and difficult to repair especially in the field) applies to pretty much all ebikes. eMTBs have always had the exact same concerns and are selling very well from what I can see. Obviously, if the ride you're planning is within your...

I agree that those sorta of bikepacking routes are likely never going to see much ebike interest. The flipside of that though is that most people who purchase bikepacking bikes aren't doing those sorts of routes. Like, I would bet that for every 100 cutthroats salsa sells, only a handful get...

I believe it! I have the Revolt E+ and frequently carry a spare strapped to the rack with a 250whr extender on the downtube. Lot of weight but bike handles it no prob. 105 miles is a long ride, very nice!

Yeah, that’s an impressive ride for sure! Would love to know what Rabs battery setup is. Looks like one of the old giant road e+ bikes.

Life has been extremely busy, so when I somehow got a Sunday without much to do I had to get out even if the weather wasn't as nice as it has been. Heading out of town on Old Waterford Road. Pretty popular gravel route if you're heading to northern Loudoun. Road conditions sucked (huge rain...

I don't disagree. I mean, I have some friends who are into it and they generally are camping in remote places and riding ~80-100 miles a day (or more) when they are doing weekenders. So nothing on the market is really feasible for that. But those people probably aren't in the market for...

Bikepacking in general is kind of a niche within cycling, but its been popular enough over the past several years that some smaller manufacturers have been successful offering bikes catering to it. I do think its an unexplored market for ebikes that could be quite successful on a similar scale...

The CPSC isn't really in the business of promoting cycling as a lifestyle or anything like that. They are an independent government agency focused solely on consumer product safety regulations. So all they really look at is whether products are unnecessarily risky and make decisions on...

Hah. That’s actually how you setup the cowchippers. If you look at other salsa bikes that come with them (for example, the fargo) they are setup the same way. Side pictures exaggerate the backwards tilt because they have a pretty extreme sideways flair (like all shallow drop bars, so you can use...

Yeah, not sure if they are actually selling it anymore. Who knows. Niner has had their business struggles over the past several years (did bankruptcy in 2018 and were bought out by United Wheels, and went through downsizing and reorg last year). The RLT e9 is worth an update IMO, but no idea...

I'm not familiar with Marins ebike line. A quick perusal of their website shows a bunch of pretty normal looking ebikes. I don't see any drop bar bikes at all though, just eMTBs and various flat bar cruisers. In any case, the argument here isn't that any of these other bikes are bad, its that...

FWIW the GRX version of the Tributary comes with a rigid fork. The sram version comes with a Rockshox 35 suspension fork. The Cannondale you're hyping up comes with a Lefty suspension fork in some versions as well. Suspension forks are reasonably mainstream in the gravel world. A lot of...

I did forget that Giant has the Stormguard now, which probably gets disqualified due to being a flat bar bike with full suspension, but kinda approaches the design goals of the Tributary from the other direction. The Tributary is taking monstercross/gravel bikepacking to its extreme in offroad...

Cool? All of those are probably great bikes. I'm not sure what your point is. Weight is not the be all end all even for normal bikes. Its even less important for an electric that has more than enough power to compensate for its weight. My Revolt with racks and bag and extender is pushing...

Thanks for assuming I mispoke, but I was talking about the Creo 2. The Creo 2 has a 71° head angle, vs 67° on the Tributary (4° is a huge difference). The Creo 2 has a 435mm chainstay vs 445mm on the Tributary. Creo 2 has a 1022mm wheelbase (small) vs the Tributarys 1094mm. BB height is...

Not sure either of those are on the table for the CPSC. Financial responsibility/insurance is largely a matter of state law. Legal use of paths is all over the place but usually under some local jurisdiction/park department/something like that. They do tend to follow state law, and most state...

Apples to oranges comparison though, at least for the Tributary. Full power ebike with a 625whr battery vs a low power ebike with a 320whr battery. Very different geometry too. The Salsa has a 4 degree slacker head angle, 10mm longer chainstay, less BB drop and a considerably longer...

Tributary is very interesting. 625whr battery, full power Bosch motor, big tire clearance, lots of mounts, compatible with the range extender. Might go on the list of replacements for my Revolt when the time comes. Been waiting for someone to do a drop bar bike with the larger battery emtbs...

I've also seen hub motor MTB tests where even with monstrous, multi-thousand watt hub motors the bikes struggled at slow speeds on a steep enough slope (especially in rough terrain). Electric motors have a very flat torque curve but they still stall and struggle at very low RPM, like you'll see...

Main issue with a hub motor is that your powered drivetrain is singlespeed. So theres no ability to adjust powered gearing through the bikes drivetrain to accommodate different road conditions or grades. Advantage is they are mechanically simpler and therefore less expensive. Some mfgs try...