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  1. jabberwocky

    "Why I STILL do not own an E-MTB (Despite having everything else)": an interesting video

    Bentonville is a bit of an odd one in the mtb-destination world, because it became an outdoor destination very quickly and very recently (like, first trails cut in 2007). For those who don't know, Bentonville AR is the home of Walmart. Some of the Walmart family kids are into mountainbiking...
  2. jabberwocky

    "Why I STILL do not own an E-MTB (Despite having everything else)": an interesting video

    Seth is a pretty strong rider. I do think theres a point where a fit rider doesn't get as much speed/endurance boost from an ebike as normal people. Then it becomes "I'm riding a heavier bike to go slightly faster". He also lives in western NC. I've ridden there and (like a lot of MTB...
  3. jabberwocky

    Recommendation for ebike for commute on mountain trails

    Some questions to consider: What ebikes are actually allowed on the trails you intend to commute on? "Trails" can encompass everything from gravel/cinder roads all the way to actual mountainbike singletrack. Mountainbike trails tend to be the most restrictive around when it comes to ebike...
  4. jabberwocky

    When was the last time You listened to a record album?

    My wife is a vinyl fan. We have sonos speakers throughout the house so have a Victrola Stream that autoplays to the main group in the living room, and can obviously add to the rest of the house. I'm sure the true vinyl geeks wince at that (converting analog to digital kinda defeats the...
  5. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    I do know Hunt wheels! Not familiar with Privateer, but I'll admit I last rode lift-served trails in like 2013. Loved DH, rode for several years but after a few hospital trips I sorta drifted out of it. Hope so. Always sucks when small quirky manufacturers go under. Its rough out there...
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    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    Having a motor on the bike hides a lot of crimes, geometry wise, especially where pedaling position is concerned. It also helps that ebikes have a built in maximum range via the battery, so you don't generally have to worry about people riding them for hours and hours. Say what you want...
  7. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    I'm in the same boat, honestly. If I were to end up with one to replace my Revolt, it would get used for overnighters like 1% of the time (though those are rides I really want to do). The rest would be various flavors and lengths of gravel loopage, like I do now on my Revolt. I like the full...
  8. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    The Pinarello is a road bike. Sorry. I'm sure its very light though. You really need to learn a little about reading a bike geometry chart if you're offering that up as an alternative. The Cannondale is probably one of the better options for a general purpose full power gravel ebike out...
  9. jabberwocky

    How Many e-Bikes do you have and ride ??

    Two. An emtb (YT Decoy) and e-gravel (Giant Revolt-E). Wife also has a Decoy and a Liv Thrive. Also have a bunch of non electrics. Soma Saga (touring bike), Ibis Silk (road bike), Motobecane Century Ti (endurance road/gravel), Evil DOC (dirt jumper), Ibis Mojo HD (mtb), Catrike Speed...
  10. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    I don't think anyone in this thread is a fanboy aside from you. The only person in this thread who has tried to argue that any bike is perfect is.... Sorry, theres no such thing as a perfect bike, no matter what Specializeds massive marketing department says. We are just trying to discuss...
  11. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    Theres a lot of marketing around the gravel label, but there always is around whatever is new and shiny in the bike industry. Bike companies find it easier to sell a new category to existing bike owners than any bike to someone who isn't into cycling yet. So new categories are very exciting...
  12. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    If that Pinarello defines european thinking on gravel, I'd say they are at least 15 years behind. Could argue that they haven't even started. :D
  13. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    I'm vaguely familiar with Pinarello as a brand but don't really know their bikes. I looked up the Nytro E7 Gravel (which is apparently their e-gravel bike that says they know e-gravel much more than Salsa). Thats... a road bike. Its a road bike with 40c tires. I mean, it has almost the same...
  14. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    Its worth noting that Salsa (like Surly) is a division of QBP, aka Quality Bicycle Products. QBP is a huge bike/part distributor in the USA (pretty much every shop in the USA has a QBP dealer account and orders stuff from them). I genuinely don't know how much international...
  15. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    ...what? I mean, its not for everyone, but on a bike designed for endurance riding in the the backcountry suspension makes a lot of sense. Much more effective at reducing the beating your arms/wrists/shoulders take than in rough terrain than things like suspension stems or short travel forks...
  16. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    Not an inexperienced cyclist, but likely not experienced with flared drop bars like the cowchippers, or drop bar bikes with front suspension.
  17. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    Same basic idea as road bars (multiple hand positions to help with fatigue, ability to drop upper body for aero). Dirt/gravel drops usually are wider (better leverage on front end in rough terrain), have less reach (more upright body position) and the drops are shallower (so you can ride in the...
  18. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    I rode it many times from Chain Bridge into DC back when I lived in Reston. Since moving to Leesburg I've parked at Point of Rocks and ridden both directions with the wife several times. I mean, its not, like, national mall packed but it was always fairly well used. I guess I'm spoiled from...
  19. jabberwocky

    Salsa e-Bikes - Bikepacking Options

    If you're used to traditional road drops, flared dirt drop bars look really weird. Especially in straight on views (side/front/top). But they make a lot of sense when you ride them. The drops are a lot more usable when they are up an inch or two and you aren't as horizontal using them...
  20. jabberwocky

    Could "E-Bikepacking" Become A Thing asks Bikepacking.com

    Yeah, true that. Weight, rough terrain and elevation are all enemies of range. I pretty much ride in eco on my Giant (which is 100% assist). Sometimes I ride with my local gravel club, and when I'm riding the ebike I tend to turn it down to 50% or 75% so I can get a workout. Running lower...
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