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  1. jabberwocky

    Outfitting a drop-bar ebike for recreational use

    A followup thought is to put the throttle on the flats near the stem, and add inline cyclocross levers so you have brakes while on the flats. You could put it on the flats without the levers, I guess, but I would not personally want to have a throttle in a place where I need to move my hands to...
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    Outfitting a drop-bar ebike for recreational use

    Really unusual to run a throttle on a drop bar, even a conversion, for reasons gone into in this thread. If you must, I think your only real option is a thumb throttle put somewhere on the drops in a way that your index finger or thumb can get it, but its probably not going to be convenient to...
  3. jabberwocky

    What Do You Do With Your Old Unused Conventional Bikes?

    Sold some of them. Gave a couple away. Still ride some of them. Hanging onto a few that I don't ride anymore but aren't worth much so aren't really worth selling.
  4. jabberwocky

    The Tariff Questions?

    The issue with the The issue with this mentality is that it ignores the fact that its extremely difficult (bordering on impossible) for uneducated labor to legally immigrate to the US in most cases. Its not like these are people who are just too lazy to do some paperwork. Its either work...
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    A quick adventure on reddit, where is my ect, as I would like to forget the experience.

    To each their own, but I've never found much point to suspension on the road. It adds weight, cost and complexity for relatively minor gain, unless your roads are really awful. It also makes the bike feel mushy under spirited riding. I've run full suspension on mountain bikes for 21 years now...
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    Offshore ebike manufacturers to disappear in 2025

    I mean... maybe. But companies like Chris King (and other boutique US parts manufacturers) already run a lot of automated manufacturing. You still need people to load the machines, program them, maintain them and handle packaging and shipping and whatnot. And American labor is expensive...
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    Offshore ebike manufacturers to disappear in 2025

    Offshore bike manufacturers (which is, to some extent, basically all bike manufacturers) are not going to go away. They will get more expensive. Even with 100% tarrifs China and Asia will still be the cheapest (or only) game in town and they will continue to make our stuff. Companies will...
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    The Tariff Questions?

    This is so silly that its hard to believe its an actual argument in good faith. Though it would be completely hilarious if they, like, dismantled social security and stopped infrastructure spending entirely in rural areas (which will never return the money spent in economic activity) and...
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    The Tariff Questions?

    I have no idea how you'd even check that as a client. Though I'm sure plenty of contractors would be happy to put that in a contract knowing you'd have a warm happy feeling about "no illegals" and then they'd hire whoever would do the job, which would probably include undocumented workers.
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    The Tariff Questions?

    Construction as well. I work in construction and lots of builders and subs are various flavors of immigrant (from 1st generation citizen to green card holders to work permits to undocumented). Unemployment in that sector has been basically non-existent since covid. If you wanted a job in...
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    The Tariff Questions?

    Nobody really has any idea what the magic hate ball that will be setting policy for the forseeable future is going to land on, but all indications are that they intend on large tarriffs. I wouldn't bet on them limiting them to only China. I personally expect pretty much everything cycling to...
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    The Tariff Questions?

    And likely never will, until automation gets to the point where replacing overseas manufacturing labor is doable with automation at similar prices. I've owned a lot of US made stuff over my cycling life; I had two Turner MTB frames, I've had several sets of Chris King hubs and headsets, I've...
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    The Tariff Questions?

    There are US made frame/component companies, but they are generally small boutique brands (like Moots frames or Chris King hubs/headsets). Pretty much all mass market bikes use components made overseas. Like, Shimano has factories in several countries (Japan, China, Indonesia, etc) and those...
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    The Tariff Questions?

    In all likelihood, continuing to manufacture in Asia and increasing prices to cover the tariffs will still be much cheaper than manufacturing mass market stuff in the USA. Its unlikely to really change where things are made, just make stuff more expensive, especially at the low end.
  15. jabberwocky

    Yamaha Leaving US Market

    Probably the only true thing in this post. :p Establishing themselves as a legit ebike manufacturer with a knowledgeable and enthusiastic dealer network was always a long term project. I think they invested massively in it and then decided that it was too difficult/unprofitable and bailed...
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    Yamaha Leaving US Market

    Shame, but not surprising given the fire sale they've been running the past few months. Lots of people picking up Moros on the local mtb groups given they've been going for under 2k. Their bikes were, by all reports, pretty nice. Their dealer network is widespread (since they just leverage...
  17. jabberwocky

    19.5 mph top speed

    You'll have to search for a Bosch de-restricting device of some sort. Will definitely void the warranty and depending on locality, may limit where you can legally ride. My ebikes all cut out a little below the full legal cutoff; my Shimano E8000 bike ramps power down pretty fast around 18.5mph...
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    Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 (aluminum) is out, is a Vado SL 2 next?

    Interesting... I know they switched the canadian Revolts to Shimano a few years ago. So maybe they are using Shimano more globally? I've not seen a US spec bike using anything but Yamaha (and now whatever brand hub motor system they are using for the new drop bar bikes). I don't think Shimano...
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    Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 (aluminum) is out, is a Vado SL 2 next?

    My wild-ass guess is they decided that they wanted their new drop bar ebikes to be in the ever popular low-power-light-weight genre. But their motor partners (mostly Yamaha with a dash of Shimano) didn't have anything in that market, so they switched to a lightweight hub motor system. Maybe...
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    Turbo Creo 2 Comp E5 (aluminum) is out, is a Vado SL 2 next?

    I know Emilyrides got herself sorted on a sweet custom, but just as a followup for anyone else looking for a really small drop bar ebike, it looks like Liv is doing a version of Giants new hub motor lightweight drop bar bikes and the XS is pretty damn small...
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