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That's the one upgrade I don't understand on the SL - the brakes. OK - maybe a matter of preference with the length of the triggers but plenty of grip area and the levers can't be pulled back far enough to the hand anyway. I would assume the XTR brakes are lighter so that would be an advantage...

Where is the torque sensor on the SL?

Jackson NJ? For sure.

That's the great thing about my SL4. I can get whatever workout I want. And I can always get home when I'm spent no matter how far from home.

Beautiful bike! That's great that you got it the way you wanted and with no hassle. Now go put a ton of miles on it. :)

I finally replaced my stock SL 4 wheels with CF and a Onyx Vesper hub. It's completely silent freewheeling now. Guess I'm happily out of fashion RochR...

Thanks for the pictures of the wiring - interesting.

I use the Specy defaults and my lowest power assist has only ever been ECO and the sound is just a purr - no issues.

Supposedly. :)

Credit for what? Lip service? You don't know Specy will change anything. That's just what they told you. Surprised you're taking the 'word' of a company that you say provided you such a crappy experience all around. You got bad bikes and bad service. But they tell you 'Oh - since you came...

Beautiful. Sweet color and love the paint fade. Well done Spec. Treat her like an angel. 👍😇

You hit the nail on the head Camasonian - the SL is 'bike-like and fun to ride'! That's a perfect description of the Vado SL and the reason you should get two! :)

Was not aware that a RE battery could be updated - thanks Stefan - something else to think about when I finally take in my SL for latest firmware.

Sirrus is beautiful bike - love the color as well. In my opinion - chain is a bit too long and would take an inch or two out. Like the black fork too. But reminds me, that I could get a FutureShock put on my VadoSL4.

Kickstands may add some weight but prevent a lot of nicks and scrapes on a bike - in my opinion. First and only addition so far to my beautiful VadoSL4.

Regarding chains - KMC with a carbon fiber offering - save some weight at a price. Wonder if it's noisier, no matter the position.

Sorry rochrunner - thought they might work.

Forget the touch-up paint >> get a new cap. https://kustomcaps.com/

I don't consider the wind when I go out on my SL, at least not like when riding my bikes. Unless you're going out with a lesser amount of charge like under 50% or so. Then you might want bring it in to your distance calc. Everyone is different.

I'm just glad Einstein never watched Youtube. Then it might be E=MC without the little 2. :) Great discussion btw. And remember - if the forecast says there's a 60% for rain that actually means 60% of the area has 100% of getting wet.