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Ha! It really is. And your approach is wise. Appreciate your input. I probably will go with the ST5, my Turbo died (commuting is hell without it) and there is nothing else out there I'm excited about. I just want to know exactly what I'm getting myself into before plunking down 10k+. Will post...

Congrats on the ST5 @eschummer! I'm wondering if you have tried using the phone app to adjust the motor settings. I saw it mentioned that you can adjust the off the line responsiveness. Also, on my test ride, I was riding up an incline and switched from 3 to S and didn't notice that much of a...

Yes, its encouraging that the torque rating is the same for both. I spoke to the shop selling the bike and they weren't too confident in their response but basically said the same thing as what MinnBobber quoted. This is an informative link about wattage/volts and touches on how bike...

What does that mean when they "detune" the motor? Less torque? If its capped at 28mph what does it matter if the motor is 850w or 650w? Most of my commute is flat until I get close to my house. My Specialized turbo doesn't do too badly right now based on my traversing route. I test rode a...

Hello, long time reader, first time poster. I was just about to pull the trigger on an ST5 but after researching and being very excited about this bike and the 850w motor, I just saw on the Stromer site that the US version of the bike only has a 650w motor. I haven't seen any reviews that...

$35 ticket? Where do you live? I got a $200 ticket where I live for crossing a double yellow line to pass slow moving cars.

The way they tossed every other bike aside to get to the Stromer, I think this footage would make a great ad for them ;)

I also live in the bay area, Sausalito. I bought my Turbo at Mike's bikes here in town and you're right, they are tough when it comes to negotiating. Where did you end up buying your Turbo and were you able to negotiate a better price?

That Carbon looks pretty sweet to me, not sure how you could go wrong with that. Seems like an excellent choice. And the adaptor for the phone sounds pretty cool. I struggled with the Turbo being more than I needed as a commuter but I have the budget and couldn't help but geek out the little...

Thanks Roadrash3 for the reassurance, my thinking was inline with yours when I pulled the trigger yesterday on a black turbo. The shop where I bought it shared the specs of the two new and cheaper versions but like you I decided to go all in. Especially since commuting makes this bike pay for it...

The $6k Turbo's specs seem comparable to competitor bikes that cost $4k like the ST1. Doesn't make sense drop battery capacity and motor below competition's specs at that price range. Maybe they are moving to mid range components?

The plot thickens with a 2015 Turbo for $4k https://bikerumor.com/2014/07/17/photo-gallery-2015-specialized-road-mountain-bikes-overview/

@Court - This is the video I was referring to...

They certainly do have different personalities, as I mentioned the Turbo is the one that puts the smile on my face. But I'm also paranoid about it being stolen, so the built in security of the ST2 is quite appealing.

Sounds like a great ideas if I can be patient enough!

Thanks for the feedback. I did test ride a Turbo and an St1. I really like the feel of the Turbo better, more nimble and sporty. The St1 was a more plush ride but didn't feel as fun to me. Probably the weight among other things. What intrigues me about the St2 is the electronics, battery...

I was just about to pull the trigger on the Turbo until I saw the ST2 spec video. Anyone else waffling between the two? Care to discuss the merits of the two based on what is known? [Update! the Stromer ST2 review has been posted on the main site and includes input from @Ravi Kempaiah and...