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I recently had the firmware update done on my 4.0 SL. I also recently installed Blevo on my phone so have periodically been recording motor power among other things. Prior to the update - both Mission Control and Blevo reported max motor power of around 300 W when in turbo 100/100 mode. It...

How long would it take you to do the same ride on 17 lb bike? The Creo with SL has a nominal rating of 480 Wh. Let's say 450 Wh is usable. If you would normally take 8 hrs to do 150 miles that would be an avg 18.75 mph. 450 Wh of the Creo would equal 450Wh/8h = 56.25 Wh/h giving an avg...

I had my 4.0 SL firmware updated recently as well. For my garmin edge 130, it automatically re-paired the sensors - it also (re)calibrated the wheel size. I expect that the firmware reboot process clears the sensor pairings.

My guess is that it is measuring consumed power since it would be easier to measure. 1. That is a much easier way to think about it, thanks for pointing this out. 2. So for an SL that would be .32x If pp setting is high enough, this will hold true for any rider power I generate. Looking at...

It is a separate app for use on your android or iphone. I use it instead of Mission Control. The android playstore link has some screenshots you can see some of the data it can show: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dopa.android.blevo&hl=en_US

Agreed that the display on the screen is not terribly useful. I do keep it on my 3rd "housekeeping" screen along with the odomer, garmin battery charge and other info I only occasionally look at. The real benefit to me was the premium version stores the battery percentage and assist level in...

I have a Vado 4.0 SL. Since I already had the garmin it was no risk to try the free version to confirm compatibility. I suspect it should work with the Vado as well but if you don't already have the garmin might be a good idea to find out for sure before springing for one.

Ebike field premium with a garmin will record graphically that info but does not have access to motor power in Wh. Blevo with a smartphone can also show graphically but also gives % time in each mode and also breaksdown assist in Wh for both rider/motor for each mode as well as much more info.

Mission control can be configured to show bike and motor power side by side. But if you are going to use your phone anyway, check out Blevo. You can still use your garmin to record your rides. Take a look at this thread which includes a graph of rider/motor power/altitude over distance...

I've been using a garmin as a bike computer before I got my Vado 4.0 SL. The 4.0 does not come with a TCD and I don't see a reason to get one. Like Grayfox I've been using the Garmin to record ride data for several analog bikes over the years as well as the Vado. I like having all the ride...

I use a garmin edge 130 and both the free and premium versions of ebike field work well to show and record assist mode and battery level. I've been using garmin for the last few years to keep a record of my rides so I'll continue to use garmin (in spite of the recent hack attack). I've also...

Thanks for the info. Just installed Blevo and did a quick around the block type ride to check it out. I use a garmin to record ride data so am not a big Mission Control user so no loss there for me. As well, my Garmin doesn't have the capability at the moment to display/record motor power...

It will be interesting to see if the Class 1/3 distinction will ever become an enforcement issue. Right now e-bikes are still relatively rare but I see plenty of >15 mph scooters/skateboards/etc on dedicated bikepaths (as well as my Class 3 Vado SL) The Open Space district in the SF Bay Area...

Blevo looks interesting. Are all those screenshots from your phone? So the graph could be setup to show biker/motor power on the right and assist level on the left? Looks like this will be a good tool to understand support/max assist level settings. Thanks for the long press to change data...

Thanks, I've been wanting to see what different assist settings will impact the rider/motor power ratios. In a brief ride it was surprising to see some of the motor power numbers. In particular, I noted that it exceeded the 240 W fairly often. It also confirms what I've been seeing that...

When/if you get a garmin you can check out Ebike Field from the garmin app store. That will enable a field that can display the assist level and battery % on the garmin. For a modest donation, the author will also enable some premium features. The one I've found most useful is that it will...

I'm using the Garmin 130 but I also ran into the issue you are seeing. When I had the fake channel enabled it used the power field to display remaining battery power. Disabling the fake channel I was able to select from the different power display options.

Nice bike and pic. Is that a 5.0? According to the website the 5.0 comes in that color but only in the unequipped model. Also noticed that the top tube has additional braze-ons not shown on any of the 2020 SL's. Is yours a 2021 and do you know if they changed the color options? I want to get...

I believe the restriction is for air transport only. So bike shops should still be able to ship an ebike. For the SL, the idea is it is ok to air travle with the 160 Wh range extender but the in bike battery would have to be removed. I think there is a member on here who is a dealer and...

Have you checked your local specialized dealers? Even tho the website pulled the range extender a couple months ago, the lbs here in California had them. If you wanted to go mail order it looks like mikesbikes.com had them and will ship. You also need the road cable.