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the m1 just seems like it may take too long to get up to speed.

I agree. I'm just worried about the acceleration

I wonder if the speedy bike is worth the extra price. or if the stealth is. they would be better in the trails.

I've come to the conclusion that for the same amount of money, stealth bikes offer much more. Also, grace one.15 should be available next year. it's a very impressive bike

nice thing about a direct hub motor is how quiet it is. also, do you think the electronics would degrade if you took the hardtail on the trails?

Yes. I've been in a cage with a liger. it takes one nudge to realize the true mass behind that soft fur coat

The super fast bike you showed me seemed the closest to perfection. top speed for the roads, torque for the mountains, and full suspension to top off the deal.

Still not sure if the grace 15 will be available with shocks. hopefully.. still a hard tail though

that is an incredible deal, I'm just worried how the thing would do on a trail. last thing I would want is the bumps causing a connection to come loose since there is no suspension.

Well it's all about how easy it gets to the 45 mph and how efficient it is.

I've seen the grace pro, but they haven't advertised a grace 15 pro yet as far as I'm aware

Yes, that was very cool. I'm working with it right now.

I think the grace one.15 will be cheaper, so there will be a bit of competition.

The grace one.15 seems like a good alternative to the spitzing

7.5 seconds isn't bad, but I'm sure the stealth could beat it (consuming 1kw in the process haha)

right but is that the motor specs, or the specs while pedaling

Seemed like he didn't need to pedal very hard at all. with that amount of torque, I wonder what the acceleration would be from 0 in the hardest gear. if it has a torque sensor it should jump pretty fast, eh?

which German racer jumping?

Well the stealth is wasteful, but it sure can jump when you pull the throttle. I've seen videos of a guy just twitching the throttle and the front tire just pops up like a feather

I believe the pedellec is a better deal since you get an all carbon frame, super high quality motor, tons of power. just seems like the optimal bike