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I don't think Sondors is taking the money and running... He's more likely taking the money and wasting it... He's having great time ,over in China, playing with "other peoples" money... The RadRover campaign is being run from the states... the biggest difference is the non essential plastic...

Can my post be seen by all? I'll post again... Apparently IGG's is happy with their campaign success rate of under 10%... I guess they never saw the Avis car rental commercial... "We're #2, so we try harder" something along those lines...

I just posted on the IGG condors comment page... Copied from IG's terms of Use Community Guidelines Indiegogo is not a place for hatred, abuse, discrimination, disrespect, profanity, meanness, harassment, or spam. Do not: spam the comments sections or other Users with offers of goods and...

Maybe they dropped it before painting it blue, thus putting a kink in the downtube...

FTC, That's my guy, how did you get that response? Regarding proof of LI, I don't need it but if its not confidential... I'm sure they can provide it. Depends on who's asking... M

FTC, RR's 78% that's a C+... Darn, but I ordered 2 anyway... I tried communicating with an Alibaba bike vendor but I gave up... I thought the translation was incomplete at best.... The RR bike specs were close to what I would have ordered had I tried to direct order... And I wouldn't have...

FTC, I wonder if the new PR team, SPEC, would heed any of your advice or do they even know what they got themselves into?? http://www.specpr.com/?team=greg-dawson

A lot of those sales are probably from shipping perks ... which is almost a third of this campaign... Not sure why they have to call them perks?

You order a small # of bikes (for a fraction of what they spent on initial ad. costs)... test them... If they are acceptable ... you are ready to go... to funding... .. the RadRover campaign did just that...minus the bogus marketing team...

This could have been just a simple group Ebike buy.. but they chose to do it backwards... No sample bikes... get the money first... Define the specs later??? The only unique thing separating this bike from others is the triangle lunch box... which ironically may be holding up their entire...

You have to admit this campaign has been a huge marketing success...on behalf of Sondors and IGG... P.T. Barnum would have been very impressed.. "Many people are gullible, and we can expect this to continue."

FTC, "Indiegogo’s Trust and Safety Team" must be taking this campaign off...

Meanwhile, over at the IGG... one slips through every once in a while... Zeke McFarland 7 hours ago I’m excited about the recent update on the yellow battery box… When is the next yellow battery-box update due?

According to Chris 2.0, Sondors was insolvent when he began this campaign,and he may be insolvent when it is all over.. He'll be thinking... so sue me... and thanks for the memories... I think I'll just stay here in China... with all my yellow lunch boxes and my yellow bike... what else do I...

I always wondered why the extra battery shipping perks are out pacing the extra battery perks almost 7 to 1... I don't think any of Sondors perks ever said "shipping included".. Looks like they got the yellow right, does this mean the yellow bikes will be delivered first??

Thanks George, I was hoping to lure you back... There can be a simple formula to determine range... well maybe it's not simple to create but to use... I really do have to go off to work..

Maybe, here in the states we could get the EPA to test each Ebike and create a window sticker listing E-only range, calories not burned, and cost to charge... something along those lines...

"Sondors real challenge after he starts shipping is putting together a great assembly video.." Why is a video a challenge and wouldn't the video come before he starts shipping???

PowerMe is right ... well sort of... Nothing has been proven... But that doesn't mean something bad hasn't already happened or is still happening... I'm surprised Court has shut down this thread... It's very entertaining though... M

It's more like 224 bikes per 40' container... And after making port the bikes still need to be trucked to the funders.. after paying the appropriate fees of course...