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Thanks George and Ann, I will check it those out... Hopefully we will get out RadRovers soon... I will definitely... study up and learn how to properly charge/maintain the RR Samsung battery pack... Especially since they are almost half the cost of the bike...

If you want a few more features ...Easy set-up Small GPS navigators are available for around $45... Make sure you turn it off when not moving ... but 6-7 hrs on a AA alkaline battery is not to bad.... And you can where it jogging too... But why would you jog when you could ride your bike...

You would think that since the battery is one of the most important components on an Ebike... A detailed care and maintenance booklet would be included... I just read it is not good to store Lipo batteries at full charge... is that right... Will/can the charger stop before full charge?? Hybrid...

Doesn't this "upgraded battery" have a low voltage cut-off? If so, you really can't run the battery all the way to zero and risk damage??

Good to know... forgot about the fenders... I'll probably go for the shorty fat bike fenders.. since it never rains here in CA...

Andrian, Phrodos, If you don't mind, how much is the duty on a $1000 RR? If shipping is $558, that leaves $400 import duty, 40%, why so high, is it because it is a Chinese product? M

Any mechanical item that is regularly used, will usually last longer if the owner has knowledge on maintenance . Right , but most Sondors ownners, who probably bought this bike on a whim and for its looks will not be doing regular, prudent maintenance (like above) or set-up to begin with...

Quick search... Top of the list... long shipping times for all the cheap ones... http://www.ebay.com

40M+ bikes every year... at that rate ... 1 in 7 people on earth could have a Chinese ebike in just 25 yrs time... That's with zero population growth... but surely the non-chinese ebike makers can pick-up the slack... Just an observation... I wonder how a Chinese factory worker actually...

Joe, Which Stromer model do you have and what body of water are you guys riding into?? In this old vid the rider doesn't get wet until the 48 sec mark... I was hoping he would ride off that cliff straight into the water... still a cool scene as coastkid71 emerges and rides off...water still...

Where are all these "Sondors first impressions" ... So far there has been only one post, #3, wallywedge... Aren't there nearly 2000 of the most popular B/Y color combos out there now??? What's it gonna take... free ice cream?

ebikedelight wrote about power and range, "A perfect example, is Court. He weighs around 135 lbs { which is way below average weight of a grown adult in America} . For a person like Court, the Sondors ebike may have plenty of speed power but for a person who weighs 230 lbs, it may be severely...

Sondors, Sonders (yes they should have fixed that by now) As for Sondors being a "brand"... that's a stretch at this point... Regarding the posts by Joe Motostrano, he owns busy motorcycle and bike shop, we're lucky he took the time a all to post their observations... Who would he be...

Great post Joe, I hope you guys can give us your take on the test drive... Also, is there anyway to easily tell what cells are used in the battery? And, the exact weight. with battery is still 60ish??... Look forward to your next post... and maybe a trip to your shop... I'm just down in...

My guess would be... he needs the money to buy a motorcycle... and he's not greedy??

Some black/yellow bikes are already for re-sale here in central CA..... both seem legit... http://sfbay.craigslist.org http://sfbay.craigslist.org

Considering IGG alarming success rate, under 10% who would trust them... oh! I know who... There's plenty to go around... I wonder when some type of official regulation is going to occur ??

Phrodos, They do that here in California... At least we've noticed that with Amazon orders... So we don't get to see the end over end "special" delivery... Our mailman, Tony has better manners...

Maybe they should just label them as TV's with wheels... they do have small lcd screens... UPS hasn't got the best CS record... I thought UPS didn't work in Norway?? Sorry... I don't think I'm helping..

What does your RR weigh now with fixed fork and new wheel/tire tube combos??? I would ask Mike Rad... or some other wheel experts before I would attempt to drill these rims... Many years ago I drilled out my '75 Norton 850's solid rotors and it was a major chore... looked cool, but no...