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Wider tires would help a little but I suspect you'd find the ride feels pretty similar to the Trek Powerfly 5 and there's probably not much you can do to significantly improve that. Both bikes have similar weights, tire widths, and of course neither has rear suspension. About the only thing...

I think the steepest climb I've had on my rides thus far is 12% grade for half a mile, so quite a ways off from worrying about 19% grades. Who knows what else is out there, though, I've got 100,000 acres of trails and logging roads in my backyard and I've only started scratching the surface...

20% assist is the key. I haven't done one of those long ones yet (I'm waiting on the weather to improve a bit), but I'm pretty confident it'll do the job. On my spreadsheet I referenced, the rides where I leave it at 20% I extrapolate mid-70s in terms of total mile range, and that's based on...

I mean, I considered a lot of bikes, but my primary concern was range. I wanted something I could go 60+ miles and climb 4k vertical feet with on a charge. I don't think there's a lot of bikes out there, certainly not the Vado SL, that could safely pull that off (even with the range extender).

Well, if you do decide to educate me on the differences (again), just remember the 4.0 does in fact have a dropper post. I was/am well aware that the motor is not the ONLY difference and I have no idea why you would assume I needed that education. I'm also well aware that the 4.0 is not...

This is kind of a silly argument, no? The 5.0 is 25% more expensive than the 4.0. Much of that expense, not all of it, but much of it goes to the motor. So far I haven't felt like I've needed more than 60% assist to climb a hill at a reasonable clip. Maybe I will come across the hill that...

I would say Mission Control logging works for me 90% of the time. I'm on Android, Pixel4a if it matters. Would be very curious on other TCD user's experiences. Maybe it's my phone? As far as the motor, don't get me wrong, I'll take the power, but I'd have rather saved $1k. The weaker motor...

I ended up getting a Tero 5.0. Here's my thoughts: The Good: Very fun to ride. Motor is very, very powerful. The weight + big 29" tires + wide tires make it very easy to ride on anything but the roughest singletrack. The ease of setting the motor at 10% increments is a godsend. Since the...

That looks like a heck of a ride! Thanks for all that context, it's really hard to get real world data for what these bikes are capable of! One last question...what assist level(s) did you do that with? One of these bikes in my size is about 70 miles away, and it's beckoning me. I've been...

That's a sexy lookin' rig. Think it'd go 50 miles and 5k vertical feet in a medium assist level?