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Wow this is all super confusing, and I am dumbfounded at all the stuff like this that is policed and certified by the companies themselves So basically if you have enough money/years to sue them and prove they lied because your house burned down you are ok but if not you are out of luck

Totally true but hopefully we will get more educated on this issue and people will start to think it’s a good idea to pay the extra $200 An extra $200 for a certified battery would be a no brainer for me

Yeah that’s not how I shop, I’m not always looking for the lowest price possible, usually shop for quality and don’t think I’m the only one

But hopefully that will change as time goes on and maybe someone will want to pay 200 more for a bike with the certifications… If that is possible Sounds like things are moving this way so people should be aware and be able to use that as a factor in purchases

Ok so we should start a thread with ebike companies or batteries that follow UN38.3 And I think Court should be adding this to the reviews/specs This would definitely play into my research when purchasing a bike

Maybe we should start a thread list of the ebike companies doing UL certification If The companies realize people are starting to pay attention to this before purchasing maybe more of them will do it

Ravi which brands of bikes have UL certified batteries? Is this only the big brands like specialized etc? Or do Rad power , etc have them too? What about EM3?

that sucks :(

Wow 55lbs, wonder if that is without the battery

Blah but 1000 watts… I am not big a fan of the batteries in the frame, for me they are a pain but nice to see a belt drive

Wow belt drive!!!! Cool

as a side note Anna said the uart controller for my M400 will be unlocked, i was not sure that was the case on the m400 motors, hope it is as smooth as the 250 programming, guessing tern did not change any programming on the motor and it was stock, not much info on these bikes am thinking plug...

well i took a chance and ordered from Anna, she has been great with answering all my stupid questions used the service Tom suggested and shipped it HK DHL will let you guys knows when it gets here, fingers crossed bike is working fine with the 250 watt controller so this is just play stuff...

Yes I was very pleased with the pas on that bike

oh boy, guess it is a good thing i am not in a hurry

these are my options???? SFC Economic Dedicated Line[Arrival time:8-13 Days] $21.93 USA Dedicated Line ( Large product)[Arrival time:10-15 Days] $25.39 SFC Dedicated Line for Special Goods [Arrival time:7-26 Days] $26.22 SFC EXPRESS SERVICE(General commodity)1[Arrival time:5-9 Days]...

this is probably no help but i had an flx bike with the m600 and really liked it , have no idea if they program them etc but night and day with my stock ultra the m600 was very smooth programming to me but this bike was most likely uart- i did not try to program it at all- and it was 2-3 years...

can anyone chime in on the fastest way to ship from these guys coming to the US? trying to order a controller and the list of shipping options is long and i am not familiar with any of them thanks

thanks for the update/info let us know how the shifter stuff works out, i am considering the 5 spd sturmey archer for my tern folder not sure which igh i will use but if you dont like this one will probably go a different direction

Whoops! I dont know why i was the thinking the evelo came with the m400, maybe the old one did.. forgot this new one has a dapu would be really interesting to compare these 2 bikes at some point if anyone has an evelo dash in az